...it was only a matter of time before I came up with a reversed double pedal like this (I've just put up a separate thread to explain how I came up with it):
Above: For the inquisitive, the cymbals are (left to right) Paiste 13" Signature Dark Crisp Hi-Hats, 14" Paiste Signature Crystal Crash (Thin), 8" Paiste Signature Splash, 10" Paiste Rude Splash/Formula 602 Bell Hi-Hat combination, 9" Zildjian Oriental Splash, 20 Paiste Signature Flat Ride, 14" Zildjian Oriental China. Drums are my Trixon Co.cktail set in Orange Sparkle, with the 8" now to the left of the hi-hats, with a 12x4" Tama Nickelworks soprano snare in it's place. Dimensions of the Trixons are: 8x6" snare, 10x5" rack tom, 15x25" 'co.cktail' bassdrum/floor tom combination. Added to this are an LP Cyclops tambourine, a Mano Percussion cowbell and a Yamaha Cascara Wedge.
And it all breaks down into this! Once I can get the combination case built for the for drums, the whole kit will be fitted into four cases and bags: the pedal case, the drum case, a cymbal bag and a bag to carry the stands in. Nice and easy!
Very innovative, I love it. Question though: what kind of style do you play that incorporates a ****tail kit and double bass? :icon_mrgreen: I've always wondered too, how does the drum sound in comparison to a bass drum and floor tom and are the sounds different at all much?
Very innovative, I love it. Question though: what kind of style do you play that incorporates a co.cktail kit and double bass? :icon_mrgreen: I've always wondered too, how does the drum sound in comparison to a bass drum and floor tom and are the sounds different at all much?
Well, thing is that the concept of a co.cktail set came about for portability for jazz drummers.....this would have been somewhere around the 1940's, 1950's or so (I'm still reading and learning about it's own fascinating history)....especially when guys were doing a lot of gigs in places like New York and needed a light and easy-to-break-down kind of kit that would be easy to get in and out of cabs. So they obviously wouldn't have the heavier hardware that is now commonplace.
Fast forward towards our times, and with the renewed, albeit small, interest in the co.cktail set, I've noticed that there have been a few guys, especially those in either the various alternative or punkabilly/rockabilly scenes using such drums again.....sometimes for practical reasons, sometimes for the aesthetics. There have also been a few right outside of all that who have been using a co.cktail set to great effect, for instance:
So I kind of reasoned it this way......if they're doing it with those genres where you don't normally use a co.cktail kit, well.....why not go for a double kick version? I think it would freak a few out there when they see it, but then again I've always sort of marched to the beat of a different....well, you know?? :P
To answer your other question, yes it does somewhat sound a little different when you're getting two sounds out of the one drum (in comparison to a separate kick and snare). Of course, you have to tune the bottom head lower than the top head (the inverse of what I normally do with most other toms). Plus I came up with a dampening method for the top and bottom heads to knock out any annoying over-rings. Have a look in the later posts of this thread.....also you can see how I've evolved the kit over time:
The bracket plus the fact that your foot is on the pedal will keep it in rock solid. It's an idea that's been on most co.cktail kits for a long time (there are a few modern as well as vintage exceptions to the rule, mind you).