Holding opposite side of drum stick
Any of you guys hit the drums with the opposite side of the sticks opposed to hitting them conventionally with the tips?
I think the drums ( for rock) sound better that way. I know vinny appice does it thay way.
Of course a shuffle beat or jazz beat would be used with the tips.
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quite a long time ago I actually had sticks that had NO tip on them..just rounded...used them quite a bit while playing rock and roll..not so good for Jazz or blues of course.
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I did for a short time with my left hand on the snare. Give me a big fat hit.
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I hold stick backwards, but only my left hand when I do the porcaro shuffle or anything like that.
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I hold the stick backwards when I'm playing with guitar players who have their amps on "11". They can always be louder but they can't bury my rim shots.
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I hold my stick backwards for cowbelling! But only new sticks. Doing that with old sticks means I get splinters from previous rim shots.
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Did that frequently back in the '60s & '70s for that monster back beat on the snare.
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Had some like that. I believe they were called "rock knockers" or some such thing.
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OldNARDguy
Had some like that. I believe they were called "rock knockers" or some such thing.
I use to buy those two and just use one at a time.
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There's no real reason to do this unless you're just a basher with little to no technique. When you turn the stick over, you'll lose the smaller tip, which is instrumental in picking up subtleties in your playing (rudiments, quieter notes, etc.).
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There's no real reason to do this unless you're just a basher with little to no technique. When you turn the stick over, you'll lose the smaller tip, which is instrumental in picking up subtleties in your playing (rudiments, quieter notes, etc.).
Vinny and Carmine Appice use the butt end of the stick. I guess you could consider them bashers but in my opinion, they can both play with some subtleness especially Carmine during the days with Rod Stewart.
Vinny Appice
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Carmine Appice
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ever seen Morgan Rose's sticks?! They are like logs!
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not only guys with killer moustaches do it too even skinny white kids
i think it was just more of a thing back then ...big snare sounds
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^HAHAHAHA Mickey Mouse shirt... classic Dave
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I'll flip my sticks around while I play and use both sides, mostly with the left hand and also switching between traditional and matched. It all depends what your playing but I use the butt end for big back beat stuff for sure.
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drummer
There's no real reason to do this unless you're just a basher with little to no technique. When you turn the stick over, you'll lose the smaller tip, which is instrumental in picking up subtleties in your playing (rudiments, quieter notes, etc.).
Agree 100% on the cymbals, but on the drums themselves I have to say butt end is just one of the many colors on our palette. One need not be relegated to the ranks of the Neanderthal for using it though I cringe when I see guys playing their ride like a crash or with the other end of the stick.
That said I rarely employ it anymore and usually it is in transition between rim click to conventional stick position or on toms while playing rim clicks on the snare ala Latin groove or a fill.
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There's a lot of pros that used the opposite side of the stick. Hal Blaine shown here during a Beach Boys recording session for "Good Vibration" flipped the sticks around for the track:
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You do whatever you need to do to get the sound you want for a given song.
Buddy would play match grip with the butt end, especially on the tom's. I don't think that anybody would tell him that "he's doing it wrong".
I've heard (read) that Traditional grip is a thing of the past, yet, over a lot of years and talking to probably a thousand different drummers, if I had to pick the word's that I heard the most, it would be "I wish I could play Traditional grip".
It's drums. You are hitting things with other things to try to fit what you're playing into a song. How you arrive at the end of the song justifies the means you used to get there. Don't sweat the small poop. (Almost let the original word get through. I think Tom would have frowned upon that)
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I do, but exclusively when I'm playing reggae.