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    I love everything about john bonham. Even his more simplistic tracks blow me away. Listen to his drum track for " all of my love ", just awesome.
    I also love the sound of his drums as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexer View Post
    I love everything about john bonham. Even his more simplistic tracks blow me away. Listen to his drum track for " all of my love ", just awesome.
    I also love the sound of his drums as well.
    I was thinking that exact same thing a couple of days ago while listening to the radio. Simple but big.

    My simple belief is that his drums sound good because that's what big drums with single ply heads sound like. Jimmy Page got a deep roundness out of them in production which is his excellent contribution.
    Ginger Baker's drums, for example, sounded more boxy.

    The most significant part of Bonham's sound though was his bass drum. It sounded like a much deeper version of the toms, making the kit one harmonious whole.

    If you want that sound yourself, buy a biggish bass drum and don't cut a hole in it. Then make the sound guy mike it from the front (he should be your btch not the other way around). This will give you the whump of a real drum. The moment you cut a hole in it you have a thud. Then, when you add mom's soft furnishings and your security blanket you have a blat. No amount of production is going to save that.

    I saw a picture of his son's setup, and sadly shook my head when I saw a hole with a microphone stuck in it.

    Everyone says they love the sound but will not do what's necessary to get it. Not sure why.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlayOtters View Post
    I was thinking that exact same thing a couple of days ago while listening to the radio. Simple but big.

    My simple belief is that his drums sound good because that's what big drums with single ply heads sound like. Jimmy Page got a deep roundness out of them in production which is his excellent contribution.
    Ginger Baker's drums, for example, sounded more boxy.

    The most significant part of Bonham's sound though was his bass drum. It sounded like a much deeper version of the toms, making the kit one harmonious whole.

    If you want that sound yourself, buy a biggish bass drum and don't cut a hole in it. Then make the sound guy mike it from the front (he should be your btch not the other way around). This will give you the whump of a real drum. The moment you cut a hole in it you have a thud. Then, when you add mom's soft furnishings and your security blanket you have a blat. No amount of production is going to save that.

    I saw a picture of his son's setup, and sadly shook my head when I saw a hole with a microphone stuck in it.

    Everyone says they love the sound but will not do what's necessary to get it. Not sure why.
    I wondered myself. He had about the biggest, most organic, unique sound you can get and he did 40 years ago. No DW's, no fancy Evans heads and so on.
    Ludwig drums (large ones) with Remo black dot heads. That was about it.

    all the best...

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    Yep, he sure knew how to get sound of his Ludwigs to be loud and boomy.

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    It was Jimmy Pages' production methods as well as some primo engineers that helped give Bonzo the great recorded sound imo.

    I still don't understand why more folks don't use 26" bass drums with NO hole!

    Frankie Banali and Jon Hyde are 2 FB friends of mine that agree.......you MUST use a 26" bass drum or at least a very good 22 or 24 that has very little dampening inside and no hole.

    I got to see Jason Bonham with his band Bonham years ago opening for the Cult.....Jason played one of his dads kits that night, but to me, Jason is really not similar to his dad in style.

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    "Everyone says they love the sound but will not do what's necessary to get it. Not sure why."


    Liking how someone's drums sound and wanting your drums to sound the same way are 2 different things.

    I saw Led Zep twice in the '70's. 1st time was around '75. Bonham took a solo that was good but nothing to get excited about. The sound of his drums from 15' away was underwhelming.

    The 2nd time he was heading for the end, so it was what it was.

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    I think that the music/musicians accompanying Bonham really make a difference. Bonham with Spencer Davis Group or Jack Bruce or a metal band would not sound good. Big surprise!
    Baker or Weckl with Led Zep....ugh.
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    I read Jimmy Page liked Bonzos performance on "Presence" quite a lot...so do i.

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    I practiced some of his trademark fills today. The broken triplets and what not. Learning to lead with my left hand is going to be a sob.
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    A Ludwig man through and through. I read once that producers would always bring in different gear for him to try, but if it wasn't Ludwig, he showed no interest.

    all the best...

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    As my user name suggests, I admire Bonzo's drumming very much.

    I used to run a music night in a dive bar in LA and his daughter Zoe Bonham came down and played a few of her own songs. Great singer. Never managed to get her on the drums though to see if she's inherited her fathers drumming genes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JakeBonham View Post
    As my user name suggests, I admire Bonzo's drumming very much.

    I used to run a music night in a dive bar in LA and his daughter Zoe Bonham came down and played a few of her own songs. Great singer. Never managed to get her on the drums though to see if she's inherited her fathers drumming genes.
    Cool, thanks for sharing that JakeBonham!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlayOtters View Post
    I was thinking that exact same thing a couple of days ago while listening to the radio. Simple but big.

    My simple belief is that his drums sound good because that's what big drums with single ply heads sound like. Jimmy Page got a deep roundness out of them in production which is his excellent contribution.
    Ginger Baker's drums, for example, sounded more boxy.

    The most significant part of Bonham's sound though was his bass drum. It sounded like a much deeper version of the toms, making the kit one harmonious whole.

    If you want that sound yourself, buy a biggish bass drum and don't cut a hole in it. Then make the sound guy mike it from the front (he should be your btch not the other way around). This will give you the whump of a real drum. The moment you cut a hole in it you have a thud. Then, when you add mom's soft furnishings and your security blanket you have a blat. No amount of production is going to save that.

    I saw a picture of his son's setup, and sadly shook my head when I saw a hole with a microphone stuck in it.

    Everyone says they love the sound but will not do what's necessary to get it. Not sure why.
    Except that John Bonham used Emperor heads...two plies.
    DW drums and Paiste cymbals.

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    I have this deep fear that one of the brilliant czech sound "engineers" will be so smart and cut a hole into my 40yr old batter head while I'm not looking...

    As previously mentioned, JB was brilliant in really playing to the music, sometimes it was simple, sometimes crazy complex. My two fave drumming songs from LZ are Achilles' Last Stand and Fool in the Rain
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