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    Yep, you've heard it. I've gone into Mad Professor mode. Once I came up with a way to sit at a co.cktail set, courtesy of a seat like this:



    ...it was only a matter of time before I came up with a reversed double pedal like this (I've just put up a separate thread to explain how I came up with it):



    And as a result, I've now got a nice co.cktail set with a bit of "turbocharge" under the hood. I think I need to form a "Turbobilly" band now, lol.



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    More photos:





    Above: For the inquisitive, the cymbals are (left to right) Paiste 13" Signature Dark Crisp Hi-Hats, 14" Paiste Signature Crystal Crash (Thin), 8" Paiste Signature Splash, 10" Paiste Rude Splash/Formula 602 Bell Hi-Hat combination, 9" Zildjian Oriental Splash, 20 Paiste Signature Flat Ride, 14" Zildjian Oriental China. Drums are my Trixon Co.cktail set in Orange Sparkle, with the 8" now to the left of the hi-hats, with a 12x4" Tama Nickelworks soprano snare in it's place. Dimensions of the Trixons are: 8x6" snare, 10x5" rack tom, 15x25" 'co.cktail' bassdrum/floor tom combination. Added to this are an LP Cyclops tambourine, a Mano Percussion cowbell and a Yamaha Cascara Wedge.

    The hardware and brackets that hold all this up:



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    668: The Number Of The Guy Next Door To The Beast.

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    And it all breaks down into this! Once I can get the combination case built for the for drums, the whole kit will be fitted into four cases and bags: the pedal case, the drum case, a cymbal bag and a bag to carry the stands in. Nice and easy!

    "...it's the Paradigm Of The Cosmos!" Stewart Copeland on Youtube

    668: The Number Of The Guy Next Door To The Beast.

    "A random act of kindness; it keeps my heart in shape!" - Late8

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    Very innovative and cool Drumbledore! Love it!

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    YES! Awesome.

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    That's nice! Simple setup and easy transport!
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    Very innovative, I love it. Question though: what kind of style do you play that incorporates a ****tail kit and double bass? I've always wondered too, how does the drum sound in comparison to a bass drum and floor tom and are the sounds different at all much?

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    Unusual to see double bass on ****tail, but I like things out of the ordinary. Probably the easiest double bass drumset to move around! Good thinking.
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    Who needs two bass drum when a single floor Tom will due. Way cool!

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    Is the kick pedal attached to anything? Will it not move? Real nice job! Thanks for the info!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aviator42009 View Post
    Very innovative, I love it. Question though: what kind of style do you play that incorporates a co.cktail kit and double bass? I've always wondered too, how does the drum sound in comparison to a bass drum and floor tom and are the sounds different at all much?
    Well, thing is that the concept of a co.cktail set came about for portability for jazz drummers.....this would have been somewhere around the 1940's, 1950's or so (I'm still reading and learning about it's own fascinating history)....especially when guys were doing a lot of gigs in places like New York and needed a light and easy-to-break-down kind of kit that would be easy to get in and out of cabs. So they obviously wouldn't have the heavier hardware that is now commonplace.

    Fast forward towards our times, and with the renewed, albeit small, interest in the co.cktail set, I've noticed that there have been a few guys, especially those in either the various alternative or punkabilly/rockabilly scenes using such drums again.....sometimes for practical reasons, sometimes for the aesthetics. There have also been a few right outside of all that who have been using a co.cktail set to great effect, for instance:





    So I kind of reasoned it this way......if they're doing it with those genres where you don't normally use a co.cktail kit, well.....why not go for a double kick version? I think it would freak a few out there when they see it, but then again I've always sort of marched to the beat of a different....well, you know?? :P

    To answer your other question, yes it does somewhat sound a little different when you're getting two sounds out of the one drum (in comparison to a separate kick and snare). Of course, you have to tune the bottom head lower than the top head (the inverse of what I normally do with most other toms). Plus I came up with a dampening method for the top and bottom heads to knock out any annoying over-rings. Have a look in the later posts of this thread.....also you can see how I've evolved the kit over time:

    http://www.drumchat.com/showthread.p...ghlight=trixon



    Quote Originally Posted by funkyruss View Post
    Is the kick pedal attached to anything? Will it not move? Real nice job! Thanks for the info!
    The pedal is attached to a bracket that is connected to two of the legs. See below:



    The bracket plus the fact that your foot is on the pedal will keep it in rock solid. It's an idea that's been on most co.cktail kits for a long time (there are a few modern as well as vintage exceptions to the rule, mind you).
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    668: The Number Of The Guy Next Door To The Beast.

    "A random act of kindness; it keeps my heart in shape!" - Late8

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    That's fantastic. I'd sure love to have a spin on that!

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    You're crazy ! But fun.

    BTW, that orange glitter is COOL !
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    DD, our Edison in residence. If only he knew how to drive.

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