Sometimes having some loud instruments around you is all the dampening you need!
all the best...
Ok so it's time to rehead my brand new kit
Now they came with g2s and the 2ply sounds great but a little too tame and dead when theyre in the mix with my band
My friend at sam ash recommended some coated ambassadors and im also looking at controlled sounds to open them up and let the shells sing with purer tone
However i am extremely hesitant to buy single plys. Ive been running 2 plys on my toms for so long im a little gun-shy so to speak. I know i can avoid the ring im fearing with moongel.
Your thoughts??
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Sometimes having some loud instruments around you is all the dampening you need!
all the best...
Thanks guys
I guess my main concern is can i still get the punchy rock sound i love with single plys
My biggest influence is Ilan Rubin if that helps any
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Those drums are punchy by themselves, they're going to have a good degree of attack no matter what. Try coated single ply heads as batters, I think you might actually like them - they really open up and bring out the warm lively tones in a kit. Very full sounding once you tune them up correctly. They are meant to be used with medium to higher tunings, so know this when you're trying to find their sweet spot and get them sounding good. You can also look for a single ply head with built in dampeners, such as coated powerstroke3/studio-x. Evans used to make an equivelant design called the EC1's but nowadays the closest you'll get to those are EC resos. Meant as a resonant head obviously, but you could use them as a batter substitute as well. Some reso heads like diplomats and genera glass are actually so thin that they cut sustain back a bit, so combining them with a single ply batter might get you less total sustain/resonance than you're thinking. Just gotta stay on top of tuning them.
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Thanks Russ i will definitely look into gettin some coated ambs
Do you or anyone else have any experience with controlled sounds on toms?
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Hi Guys,
I just bought one of these at after a few gigs was very disappointed. I started with vintage a's on top and coated ambassadors for the res side. So after my dispirited few gigs i tried a fair few different combinations. I put ambassadors on tops, coated and clear with different combinations on the bottom. I tried evans ec2's and a few different aquarian heads. After a very frustrating day of trying all of these combinations i ducked down to my local drum shop and bought a few clear emperors. They tuned up super quick and with a clear ambassadors on the bottom they suddenly came to life. They sounded great. Loads of attack and resonance, great tone.
Hope this helps.
Coated G2 batter over EC Reso. Couldn't be happier.
I've just picked up my second set of Keystones and followed suit with my previous head choice - Emperor batters over stock reso's. But I made one subtle change this time when buying the heads. My previous Keystones had smooth white Emperors and though the tone was round and full, they seemed a bit bright. This time I went with Vintage Coated Emperors. The tone is full and round but, man, it sure seems muffled to me. Maybe I'm missing hearing the attack the smooth heads rendered? I haven't had the time to break the heads in by playing over the kit yet, so I am hopeful that after the initial break in they might open up a bit. Or am I just wishing........
Any thoughts?
Thanks,
Jim
Coated G2 and EC Reso have been excellent for me both live and in studio. Fantastic drums for either application. Wide open. No dampening of any sort.
When I had my Keystones I put on coated Amb. over clear amb. and they were fantastic, especially the 13" rack tom. Highly recommend them.
The only other heads I ever had on them were Aquarian Modern vintage 2's and they were probably the worst sounding heads I have ever heard. But to be fair they came on the kit when I got it used and looked to be well worn so maybe they were just very old.
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