I went to a Carmine Appice clinic a few months ago and was kinda disappointed. He's a decent drummer but he spent like half the time telling us how Bonham ripped him off. Also he had us watch a lot of him play on the Ed Sullivan show from long ago. I was hoping to see more live playing than he did. It's true he's considered a legend but I expected a little more. I didn't have to pay so I guess it's all good. I Finally got his book though which I like quite a bit. Blessings.....