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    They are FUN.

    We were looking for a bigger sound for the room mics to pick up so as a sort-of joke I took my cracked 20" Meinl Byzance crash with a 20" Bosphorus ride and made them into hats.

    Woah.

    I don't think I would ever play with hats this big regularly, but they worked perfect for the song. The closed sound is MASSIVE and when you open them up it is just a wall of hi-hat goodness.

    I have a cracked 17" K crash that I think I'm going to try to use to make a 17" pair of hats that I would actually use on a regular basis.
    Kits:
    -C&C Player Date 13/16/22
    -65' Ludwig Super Classic 13/16/22

    Snares:
    -DW Nickel Over Brass 6.5x14 snare
    -Ludwig Black Galaxy Acrolite 5x14 snare
    -Ludwig 65' Super Classic 5x14 snare
    -Ludwig 64' Pioneer 5x14 snare
    -PDP Classic Wood hoop 6x14 snare

    Rides:
    -Zildjian 22" Constantinople
    -Zildjian 22" Kerope
    -Zildjian 20" Constantinople
    Hats:
    -17" A Medium crash over K custom dark crash

    -DW 9000 pedals

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    Jeeze!!

    I just bought a pair of 15" hats and love them.

    Sabian also just came out with 16" AAX Ex-Plosion hats. I would have bought some but I couldn't find any used demos on ebay.

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    My god that looks ridiculous lol. And I thought 15" hats were massive..
    But if it works for you, that's what you gotta do.

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    Hope your hhts stand holds up cause you would'nt want it to collapse in the middle of a gig.

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    I did that with 2 20" cymbals before too, just for fun. Super low-pitched. I can't imagine using them for anything more than an experiment, but it sounded pretty cool.

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    How good was the response time on the up and down? That weight puts some load on the spring I would imagine.

    all the best...

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    I was thinking the same thing, the weight would stress out the machinism . My 21 sweet ride is sitting on a double braced stands cause she is heavy and I could not see two 20 on a hht stand. Anything is possible I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kay-gee View Post
    How good was the response time on the up and down? That weight puts some load on the spring I would imagine.

    all the best...
    It's not as fast as 14" obviously, but it's fast enough for me to do 8ths with my foot during choruses and whatnot. I"m liking this a little too much...


    Quote Originally Posted by Pearl MCX Man View Post
    Hope your hhts stand holds up cause you would'nt want it to collapse in the middle of a gig.
    I have the DW 9000 hihat stand. That baby isn't going anywhere.
    Kits:
    -C&C Player Date 13/16/22
    -65' Ludwig Super Classic 13/16/22

    Snares:
    -DW Nickel Over Brass 6.5x14 snare
    -Ludwig Black Galaxy Acrolite 5x14 snare
    -Ludwig 65' Super Classic 5x14 snare
    -Ludwig 64' Pioneer 5x14 snare
    -PDP Classic Wood hoop 6x14 snare

    Rides:
    -Zildjian 22" Constantinople
    -Zildjian 22" Kerope
    -Zildjian 20" Constantinople
    Hats:
    -17" A Medium crash over K custom dark crash

    -DW 9000 pedals

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    I use 2 16" sabian crash cymbals on closed hihat,,,right hand side
    love it,,,also i also use an lp black mambo cowbell
    (covered in silver duct tape) achieves another "closed hat sound",,,

    there are no rules,,,,enjoy da journey!!!!
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    Thomas prigden uses 2 19in zildjian z3 thrash rides as hats.

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    I love 15" hats..
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBk4...e_gdata_player
    Heck i even have a 16" pair.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bopN...e_gdata_player

    I'd love to hear a sample of what those 20" hats sound lime!

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    When I first started playing, my stick fell short of my 13" hi-hats fairly often, so I asked my teacher about 22" hi-hats because that would be a bigger target. He said what was said above about the stand not being able to support the weight. Either he or my drummer friend said that the top would be too heavy to work with my foot. The other point was that I would have to place the stand too far away to work with my foot. However, I have fairly long legs. I am not terribly tall (5' 7"), but if my legs were proportional to my torso, I'd be a few inches shorter.
    Jack

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    Is there like a trend of big hi-hats coming?
    I notice people having their hihats at 16'', 18'' or 20'' more often and Sabian has even launched a legit product of 18'' hats (that look atrocious by the way)
    copy and Paiste

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    Good 15" seem to hit a sweet spot for me. Those istanbul in the video above are very articulate for footwork.. and the 16" i got only because they are the only non sloshy 16" hats i've ever played. Funny.. the 16" are lighter than the 15"

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    It might depend on the stand you have. The DW9000 stand holts them up just fine. Foot control is obviously slower, but there was still definitely a lot of control there.

    I will probably never use 20" hats for real, but I wouldn't mind a pair of 16" hats down the road.
    Kits:
    -C&C Player Date 13/16/22
    -65' Ludwig Super Classic 13/16/22

    Snares:
    -DW Nickel Over Brass 6.5x14 snare
    -Ludwig Black Galaxy Acrolite 5x14 snare
    -Ludwig 65' Super Classic 5x14 snare
    -Ludwig 64' Pioneer 5x14 snare
    -PDP Classic Wood hoop 6x14 snare

    Rides:
    -Zildjian 22" Constantinople
    -Zildjian 22" Kerope
    -Zildjian 20" Constantinople
    Hats:
    -17" A Medium crash over K custom dark crash

    -DW 9000 pedals

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    done that..22"


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    or vote on sabian cymbalvote sick hats 18"
    Sabian!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olimpass View Post
    done that..22"

    LoL i have the same bass drum pedal and bass head and snare heads.
    Sabian!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HolyChina View Post
    or vote on sabian cymbalvote sick hats 18"

    I have to say those sounded pretty cool.

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    I love it, no rules, just try it and if it sound good do it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rmandelbaum View Post
    i love it, no rules, just try it and if it sound good do it!
    +1

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