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    Hey guys,

    I'm having some trouble tuning my snare drum. I am currently using a Mapex Black Panther Sledgehammer. The batter side is an Evans G2 coated and the resonant side is an Evans G1. When I tune snare drums, I tend to tune the reso head a lot tighter than the batter side. Kind of like a 1 to 3 ratio. I am looking to achieve an awesome "crack" with this snare, preferably a hard rock sound. But when I tune this snare like that I'm getting more of a "papery" sound. Like if you were to lay a sheet of paper on top of your snare and hit it. I don't want that. Can anyone help me with this?

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    Voltsdrummer

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    I've had my snare sound like that when it was in a different room. I moved my drums and the sound opened up. I tune my reso incredibly tight, and my batter is a medium tension. How do you have your snare wires? Mine are loose enough to not choke the sound, and I can hear the true tone of the drum.
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    Sounds like our snare drums are tuned exactly the same. My snare wires also tuned loose enough to hear the tone of the drum. But it may be the room I play in. When I take my snare to a different place, the sound of my snare tends to change immensely.

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    Have you considered changing the batter head - the G2 head is listed on the Evans site as the most open sounding 2 ply head in the range so may not be the best choice for a dry rock sound.

    I like the HD Dry head, it seems to dry out the sound but still leave the drum responsive and sounds good at a low tuning.

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    I have never tried using the HD Dry Head. I'll give that one a try. I am looking for a good combination of attack and tone, while maintaining that perfect "crack".

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    I recently switched to an Aquarian Super 2 coated head for my snare (after years of loyalty to the Remo coated Emp).

    This head is dry with good crack..........and the coating lasts much, much longer than any other head I have used.

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    If I am reading your post correctly, an Evans G1 on the resonant side of your snare may be the problem. Try switching to an Evans Hazy snare side resonant head.

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    I had that same feeling about the G1. I'll definitely check out the Hazy.

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    yeah I also have that exact snare head and didn't like the G1 bottom.

    Swap that out.
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    I am surprised that anyone would think a 10 mil snare side head would sound good---especially cranked up tight as you describe---poor thing is nearly choked to death get a 3 mil "snare side" head, and she will come back to life

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    Maybe try a completely off the wall batter side, as I recently did with my DW edge snare. How about an Evans EC1 Reverse Dot. It looks weird, an etched head with rings around the perimeter AND a silver dot in the middle, but darn if it doesn't sound amazing!
    Now, just a tiny bit less than an absolute drum newbie

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    I use the EC Reverse Dot/ Hazy 300 on my maple snare and it sounds great did not sound as good on my metal snare.
    My Vintage Slingerland steel snare as a lot of snack, crackle, pop with Aquarian textured Z100/ Hazy 300.
    My other Steel snare Pearl Sensitone has Coated HD Genera/hazy300 and it also has a lot snap.
    And yes Hazy is a definite head on the snare side. Thinner heads make the snare IMO.

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    I'm just a little traumatized of thinner snare side heads haha. I've popped a bunch of them just tuning them up.
    Keep on playing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by voltsdrummer View Post
    I'm just a little traumatized of thinner snare side heads haha. I've popped a bunch of them just tuning them up.
    I agree, thinner is better. Try this:

    On the reso (snare side) finger tighten, then go up about 2 full turns of the key, but one round at a time. Tune to each other. Then go up a quarter turn in the star pattern on each lug, turn over and test. If you don't like, repeat that process.

    The reso is usually tighter than the batter and I usually will have the batter head tighter than a 10" tom but looser than an 8" if that gives you any idea of tension.
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    There's a reason drum head companies make snare side heads. Thinner is better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pearl MCX Man View Post
    I use the EC Reverse Dot/ Hazy 300 on my maple snare and it sounds great did not sound as good on my metal snare.
    That's good to know, as I have plans to use the same EC1 on my forthcoming new DW SuperSolid Edge when it arrives toward Thanksgiving...
    Now, just a tiny bit less than an absolute drum newbie

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    The EC with reverse dot is an amazing head on the right snare. I find this head no matter where you hit on it the sound is different at each point of contact. Be on the center, edge and in between you get a different sound and great for rim shots, ghost notes etc.

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    I use a coated ambassador x for the batter, and an ambassador on the snare side. Beautiful tone between the two heads. No matter how I tune them, the drum always sings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cabasner View Post
    Maybe try a completely off the wall batter side, as I recently did with my DW edge snare. How about an Evans EC1 Reverse Dot. It looks weird, an etched head with rings around the perimeter AND a silver dot in the middle, but darn if it doesn't sound amazing!
    +1 on the Evans EC Reverse Dot for the batter - I have them on all my metal Ludwig snares and they sound great!

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    All these responses on the reverse dot. I guess this is my next batter head purchase. And I am going to need one soon.
    Keep on playing!

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    reverse dot and hazy resonate for sure, its a good idea to change the wires every 2 or3 res changes

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    Quote Originally Posted by voltsdrummer View Post
    All these responses on the reverse dot. I guess this is my next batter head purchase. And I am going to need one soon.
    Don't forget the Hazy 300 on the snare side. Then you will love the sound of your snare for sure can't go wrong with that combination. Good luck and have fun.

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    Thanks man. Definitely putting that hazy on there too.
    Keep on playing!

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    I find that paper bag sound usually comes from a coated head that is too loose. Having the thicker reso probably makes it worse, as it has more mass and transfers more energy back to the batter head.
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    ---UPDATE---
    Today I went over to Guitar Center and picked up an Evans EC Reverse Dot and a Hazy snare side. Tuned everything up and I've never been happier with the way my snare sounds than now. Thanks guys, you all were a huge help!
    Last edited by voltsdrummer; 10-17-2015 at 08:56 PM.
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