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    Well the band I grew up with, the drummer that taught me more than any other just released what may be their last live album. I picked up the Bluray DVD.

    First the show as a whole is good, the band as always plays great. The audio mix on the other hand is horrible. Muddy, no punch, the drums are for the most part buried in the mix. VERY disappointing to say the least. After sitting through the entire show, I'll never watch it again. How does this happen?
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    That's surprising. My daughter took me to R40 for Father's Day. It sounded great. I'm really surprised that the album/video would have such a bad mix as you said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NPYYZ View Post
    Well the band I grew up with, the drummer that taught me more than any other just released what may be their last live album. I picked up the Bluray DVD.

    First the show as a whole is good, the band as always plays great. The audio mix on the other hand is horrible. Muddy, no punch, the drums are for the most part buried in the mix. VERY disappointing to say the least. After sitting through the entire show, I'll never watch it again. How does this happen?
    Sounds like the first two times I went to a Rush concert. I always figured it was the hockey rink itself with it's horrible acoustics but I'm not so sure. Johnny Cash or someone like that would play there and sound great.

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    I am surprised that their new album has such poor sound. I mean these guys have been around 40 years and have lots of money so to me no excuse for this new album to not be their best sounding and probably their last. I have not heard it yet and hope that I will not be disappointed with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NPYYZ View Post
    Well the band I grew up with, the drummer that taught me more than any other just released what may be their last live album. I picked up the Bluray DVD.

    First the show as a whole is good, the band as always plays great. The audio mix on the other hand is horrible. Muddy, no punch, the drums are for the most part buried in the mix. VERY disappointing to say the least. After sitting through the entire show, I'll never watch it again. How does this happen?
    My guess is RUSH has done it all pretty much. 40 years in the business and a still somehow growing fan base. What do they have to prove?

    I am probably dead wrong with this analysis..just throwin it out there.
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    Go to you tube and watch/listen to the posted videos from the DVD. You will see and hear. Drums are way to far back in the mix. You can hear the snare but the rest of the kit should be much louder in the mix. It's really a shame because set two is amazing.... Set two does seem to be a bit better then one but still drums are buried.

    https://youtu.be/PaSQHNg9UtE
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    Quote Originally Posted by wOOdshedd View Post
    My guess is RUSH has done it all pretty much. 40 years in the business and a still somehow growing fan base. What do they have to prove?

    I am probably dead wrong with this analysis..just throwin it out there.
    What's your point? They don't have anything to prove, however a properly mixed DVD/3CD set would be nice.

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    A used record shop near me, used to sell radio promo CD's for $1 each. I bought one for Rush In Rio ... three songs excerpted from the CD/DVD package that was on the market at the time. It sounded awful ... pretty much the same as you describe this newest release.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NPYYZ View Post
    First the show as a whole is good, the band as always plays great. The audio mix on the other hand is horrible. Muddy, no punch, the drums are for the most part buried in the mix. VERY disappointing to say the least. After sitting through the entire show, I'll never watch it again. How does this happen?
    Quote Originally Posted by JoePasko View Post
    A used record shop near me, used to sell radio promo CD's for $1 each. I bought one for Rush In Rio ... three songs excerpted from the CD/DVD package that was on the market at the time. It sounded awful ... pretty much the same as you describe this newest release.
    I have the video set from R30 and have enjoyed watching many times.
    Sounds good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NPYYZ View Post
    What's your point? They don't have anything to prove, however a properly mixed DVD/3CD set would be nice.
    I guess it was a cheeky statement. Just meant that their diehards would buy it if it was recorded on a portable RadioShack cassette
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    Quote Originally Posted by NPYYZ View Post
    Well the band I grew up with, the drummer that taught me more than any other just released what may be their last live album. I picked up the Bluray DVD.

    First the show as a whole is good, the band as always plays great. The audio mix on the other hand is horrible. Muddy, no punch, the drums are for the most part buried in the mix. VERY disappointing to say the least. After sitting through the entire show, I'll never watch it again. How does this happen?
    Actually the link you've posted sounds and looks darn good compared to other vids on the tube. Thanks for the link NPYYZ!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olimpass View Post
    Actually the link you've posted sounds and looks darn good compared to other vids on the tube. Thanks for the link NPYYZ!
    Yeah it's sounds fantastic if you don't care about hearing the drums. Obviously you CAN hear the drums but for the most part they are too far back in the mix. Here is an example of another DVD I have. Notice how the drums are right up front with the rest of the band, as they should be.
    https://youtu.be/K9_tFbFWzqc

    Or this one that came out a month before the Rush DVD, Fan funded and the mix is way better.
    https://youtu.be/B_SbQjrK1xo
    Last edited by NPYYZ; 12-05-2015 at 05:08 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wOOdshedd View Post
    I guess it was a cheeky statement. Just meant that their diehards would buy it if it was recorded on a portable RadioShack cassette
    I'm one of those diehards, I just can't keep quite about it anymore. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoePasko View Post
    A used record shop near me, used to sell radio promo CD's for $1 each. I bought one for Rush In Rio ... three songs excerpted from the CD/DVD package that was on the market at the time. It sounded awful ... pretty much the same as you describe this newest release.
    Yep ... Rush in Rio sounds awful as well...it's too bad R40 sounds like it's the same..

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    The mix and sound off the past couple of Rush albums has been disappointing in general.

    The louder is better mastering has resulted in muddled sounding messes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NPYYZ View Post
    Well the band I grew up with, the drummer that taught me more than any other just released what may be their last live album. I picked up the Bluray DVD.

    First the show as a whole is good, the band as always plays great. The audio mix on the other hand is horrible. Muddy, no punch, the drums are for the most part buried in the mix. VERY disappointing to say the least. After sitting through the entire show, I'll never watch it again. How does this happen?
    So they can remaster it and make twice as much money.
    Seriously though it will probably be re done. Rush are great at that. Don't get me wrong though. I think they deserve every penny they make. I have loved this band since I heard the opening of 2112.
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    One thing that can lead to disappointment for me is if I have high expectations before hearing something. Alternatively, if I go into it not expecting to be amazed - i'm almost always pleasantly surprised with what I find.
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    Almost all live albums are bad . Nuff said
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