Check under a light at different angels. Sometimes it's there, but hardly stamped in the bronze. I haven't really heard of Sabian cymbals without stamps. Where did you get it?
I've been checking all day long :D... Nowhere to be seen, though!
I bought it used..
Last edited by KevinVanRillaer; 01-23-2016 at 05:29 PM.
Do people make fakes/replicas?
Anyways how clean are the logo? Do they look fresh haha
They do look fresh, everything seems like it should be. Logos are the exact some of those of another Legacy Ride. I have never heard of counterfeit cymbals either, would seem way too costly to produce :D Though I'm still a bit worried, you never know...
Entirely possible to have missed the stamping process. I have a Zildjian and a UFIP where it looks like the stamp didn't quite connect and there is only a trace.
all the best..
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Agreed GeeDee, I don't think it's counterfeit. This post just got me looking through my cymbals and I noticed a trend (in mine) that the HH are signed and HHX are not. My Artisan is too, but that's a different line. All of my cymbals are between five and less than one year old though (and one is about a month) so I thought I'd mention it to show that the cymbal makers definitely do still sign their product.
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I think its pretty unlikely that your cymbal is a counterfeit. Anyone attempting it would have to either use a new blank or re-lathe a heavier donor cymbal (with a bell of the same size and profile) and have a master cymbal smith custom hammer it to replicate the appearance and sound of an original. The associated costs of producing a small number of cymbals this way would make them too expensive to counterfeit - there just wouldn't be any profit at the end of it.
I've heard that there have been a few counterfeit classic K rides (30s - 40s?) - but these are reputed to change hands for $1,500 - $2,000, it wouldn't make sense to produce fakes in instances when you can buy a good used genuine cymbal for a few hundred dollars.
I emailed Sabian and sent them some photos. They told me it looks legit and that having no logo stamped into the bronze is rare, but possible. :-)
I wouldn't worry. If it sounds good, enjoy playing it.
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