BTW I meant to say Trick nut Truck. Stupid fat thumbs
BTW I meant to say Trick nut Truck. Stupid fat thumbs
I had the exact same thing happen to the P85 on my BLackrolite. And I did the same thing, I replaced it with a P86. Direct bolt on, and a much better throw-off. You'll be happy with it.
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"I shall either find a way or make one"
I bet you need to be good at crafting to change a strainer.
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Tama hardware
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Yamaha Stage Custom Birch (CR):
20,12,10 + 14x5,5" PDP Maple/Bubinga snare
Tama hardware
Remo drumheads
Paiste cymbals
Bulky? Sorry but I don't know what it means.
My English vocabulary is small.
Glad it would work. It's the only replacement (except 2 trick strainers where I don't know if it's suitable or not) available in Germany.
The Philips Screw... Hopefully a German no-name screw would work with American screws.
Yamaha Stage Custom Birch (CR):
20,12,10 + 14x5,5" PDP Maple/Bubinga snare
Tama hardware
Remo drumheads
Paiste cymbals
Note the "Flat Head" screws on the picture I posted showing the 2.5" center to center distance for the mounting screws:
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a- having bulk
b- (1): large of its kind (2): corpulent
2:
having great volume in proportion to weight <a bulky knit sweater>
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Last edited by late8; 03-29-2016 at 02:56 PM.
You're welcome skills! Yes, very simple design and the mounting/removal is just as easy. The pic below shows all of the hardware and screws used to hold the strainer to the snare shell. The item in the upper right corner of the picture is the pin that holds the strainer lever in place. Missing is the "D" washer that holds the pin in place.
Last edited by late8; 03-30-2016 at 10:10 AM.
I just switched out my increasingly tetchy P85 on my 400 with the Dunnet and I'm very pleased with it. It might not be quite as elegant as the P85, but it's beautifully engineered and looks great. A new P85 would have cost nearly as much here in the UK and a P86 is virtually impossible to source. The supplied screws with the Dunnet are slightly too big for the original holes, but the original screws work fine. Go for it, Late!
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Correct me if I'm wrong but is the Dunnett throw a quick disconnect? I have two different Dunnetts on a couple of my snares and if you want it to work right you have to cut and grind the bottom part of the snare wire window to work right. . . .just say'in. Check out my taye snare modification thread for pics.
Last edited by drummerMD; 04-04-2016 at 12:52 AM.
Thanks for the tips guys! The P86 throw off arrived on my door step last night and I'm a little disappointed in a few things:
The P86 hardware came with only 4 screws and two thin washers
No big deal. I'll use the new screws and old washers? Wrong...the thread pitch of the new screws are different than the old washers. I'll use the old screws and washers then?
Second issue: The P86 makes contact with the snare bead. After a test fit, I found that it left scratches on the bead but after searching images on the internet for the same set up, I found they all make contact with the center bead?
Conclusion:
I'm not too keen about the P86 making contact with the center bead but after a quick search, they all do that. My 5x14" BB is in mint condition after 6 years of ownership and I'm a little "guns shy" about bolting on a throw off that will leave permanent scratches on the center bead. The hardware provided with the P86 has me a little perplexed. Why not provide the locking washers/locking nut? Am I to assume Ludwig expects me to use the existing hardware?
Your thoughts would be appreciated...thanks!
Last edited by late8; 04-05-2016 at 01:54 PM.
I would have just put a new 85 on it. If it conks after another six years...no biggie!
all the best...
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