The Ludwig Element Birch was a cracker kit for the price too. Discontinued.
Seems that as soon as the Ludwig Epic line of shells appeared and received some good reviews, they were discontinued.
What happened ? Did Ludwig make them too good (meaning, too costly) to compete in the mid-level market ?
Gretsch USA & Zildjian(What Else Would I Ever Need ?)
The Ludwig Element Birch was a cracker kit for the price too. Discontinued.
Acoustic & Electronic:
Pearl Prestige World Series WLX 1988
Tama Swingstar 1983
Tama Superstar Hyper-Drive (Birch) 2007
Ludwig Acrolite Snare 1976
Ludwig Supraphonic 6.5x14" 2021
Pearl Sensitone Elite Aluminum 5.5" and 6.5" Snare
Pearl COB Custom Deluxe [Gladstone] (75-76) Snare
Love Drum Co. Hammered Steel 5.5" Snare
Roland TD-1KV
Paiste
Accent 8"
Paiste Signature:
6", 10" Splash
14" Dark Crisp Hi-Hats
14" Sound Edge Hi-Hats
16", 17", 18",19", 20" Full Crash
22" Symphonic Med-Heavy (use as a Ride)
Paiste Formula 602:
22" Formula 602 Modern Essentials Ride
Paiste 2oo2:
22" Ride
16" Crash
8",10" Splash
Paiste 2oo2 Big Beat:
15" Hi-Hats
19", 20", 21" Big Beat Multifunctional
Paiste Sound Formula:
16" Crash
20" Full Ride (Frankenstein)
Paiste Twenty:
16" China
Paiste Alpha (original Swiss made):
12" Splash
Paiste PST7:
Medium
16", 18" Crash
20" Ride
14" Hi-Hats
Sabian:
XS20 18" China
AA 14" Fusion Hi-Hats
what was the make-up of the shells?
Chances are they'll return under another name and cost more.
all the best...
Acoustic & Electronic:
Pearl Prestige World Series WLX 1988
Tama Swingstar 1983
Tama Superstar Hyper-Drive (Birch) 2007
Ludwig Acrolite Snare 1976
Ludwig Supraphonic 6.5x14" 2021
Pearl Sensitone Elite Aluminum 5.5" and 6.5" Snare
Pearl COB Custom Deluxe [Gladstone] (75-76) Snare
Love Drum Co. Hammered Steel 5.5" Snare
Roland TD-1KV
Paiste
Accent 8"
Paiste Signature:
6", 10" Splash
14" Dark Crisp Hi-Hats
14" Sound Edge Hi-Hats
16", 17", 18",19", 20" Full Crash
22" Symphonic Med-Heavy (use as a Ride)
Paiste Formula 602:
22" Formula 602 Modern Essentials Ride
Paiste 2oo2:
22" Ride
16" Crash
8",10" Splash
Paiste 2oo2 Big Beat:
15" Hi-Hats
19", 20", 21" Big Beat Multifunctional
Paiste Sound Formula:
16" Crash
20" Full Ride (Frankenstein)
Paiste Twenty:
16" China
Paiste Alpha (original Swiss made):
12" Splash
Paiste PST7:
Medium
16", 18" Crash
20" Ride
14" Hi-Hats
Sabian:
XS20 18" China
AA 14" Fusion Hi-Hats
Ludwig Epic were a unique blend of two plies of birch over two plies of maple over two plies of birch. Together with smoke-chrome rims and keystone mini-lugs, I thought they looked very classy with the right finishes.
Below is a natural birch gloss finish with the cool hardware:
Gretsch USA & Zildjian(What Else Would I Ever Need ?)
Nice looking tom there...I have an Epic birch 20 ply snare ...its a great snare, cheap too
https://www.flickr.com/photos/russel...posted-public/
Last edited by funkyruss; 07-13-2016 at 10:14 AM.
The Brick !
Those are great snare drums for the money.
Gretsch USA & Zildjian(What Else Would I Ever Need ?)
Hard to believe for a company with such a history. Pretty sure you should know the cost to you when you set your price if not that is pretty embarrassing. I learned that in Junior Achievement. I almost bought one when they 1st came out just on looks alone but when I played a buddy's I was not blown away and neither was he. He sold it soon after buying it.
Ludwig Classic Maple 22x16,10x8,12x9,16x16
7" Moon Gel Practice Pad
Sabian HHX Legacy
Decide whether this is love for the craft or simply an ego thing
http://www.redskymary.com/ NOT MY BAND, JUST A GREAT LOCAL BAND WHO SHOULD BE SOOO MUCH BIGGER IMO
Acoustic & Electronic:
Pearl Prestige World Series WLX 1988
Tama Swingstar 1983
Tama Superstar Hyper-Drive (Birch) 2007
Ludwig Acrolite Snare 1976
Ludwig Supraphonic 6.5x14" 2021
Pearl Sensitone Elite Aluminum 5.5" and 6.5" Snare
Pearl COB Custom Deluxe [Gladstone] (75-76) Snare
Love Drum Co. Hammered Steel 5.5" Snare
Roland TD-1KV
Paiste
Accent 8"
Paiste Signature:
6", 10" Splash
14" Dark Crisp Hi-Hats
14" Sound Edge Hi-Hats
16", 17", 18",19", 20" Full Crash
22" Symphonic Med-Heavy (use as a Ride)
Paiste Formula 602:
22" Formula 602 Modern Essentials Ride
Paiste 2oo2:
22" Ride
16" Crash
8",10" Splash
Paiste 2oo2 Big Beat:
15" Hi-Hats
19", 20", 21" Big Beat Multifunctional
Paiste Sound Formula:
16" Crash
20" Full Ride (Frankenstein)
Paiste Twenty:
16" China
Paiste Alpha (original Swiss made):
12" Splash
Paiste PST7:
Medium
16", 18" Crash
20" Ride
14" Hi-Hats
Sabian:
XS20 18" China
AA 14" Fusion Hi-Hats
I bought the set (among many potential choices) because they looked great, they had the interesting birch/maple blend, and I got the exact sizes I wanted for the right price.
This included seven pieces.............2-up, 2-down, matching snare and two bass drums.
These drums sound good but are a bit too loud and a bit too sharp for my tastes (I think it is the birch).............I went back to my old Gretsch USA shells and gig with those.
I bought a double Speed Cobra and modified it to my particular needs and now I think it is better than having two bass drums...........and a lot less hassle.
Here is the full Epic kit:
Gretsch USA & Zildjian(What Else Would I Ever Need ?)
Lookin really nice. Couldn't they be broken up and sold as two 3 pc sets?
For example bass, smaller of the rack and floor..and..bass, larger of the rack and floor?
Obviously the snare with one set for more $$ if wanted.
all the best...
Makes me wish I picked up that epic snare from my store when we had it... now that it's discontinued.
I honestly think it was just timing. Ludwig has jumped around a lot with drum lines in the last 10 years or so, and it seems only the tried and true lines(Classic Maple, Club Date, Vistalite) have held fast. They have the Keystone X now, but that's not the same as the Keystone.
Jesse
1986 Tama Crestar - Lacquered Piano White
2016 Roland TD-25K
2015 Tama Starclassic B/B - Indigo Blue Sparkle
I wouldn't mind a Keystone X however.
U.S made. Maple and Oak.
Last edited by EyePea; 07-14-2016 at 11:08 PM.
Acoustic & Electronic:
Pearl Prestige World Series WLX 1988
Tama Swingstar 1983
Tama Superstar Hyper-Drive (Birch) 2007
Ludwig Acrolite Snare 1976
Ludwig Supraphonic 6.5x14" 2021
Pearl Sensitone Elite Aluminum 5.5" and 6.5" Snare
Pearl COB Custom Deluxe [Gladstone] (75-76) Snare
Love Drum Co. Hammered Steel 5.5" Snare
Roland TD-1KV
Paiste
Accent 8"
Paiste Signature:
6", 10" Splash
14" Dark Crisp Hi-Hats
14" Sound Edge Hi-Hats
16", 17", 18",19", 20" Full Crash
22" Symphonic Med-Heavy (use as a Ride)
Paiste Formula 602:
22" Formula 602 Modern Essentials Ride
Paiste 2oo2:
22" Ride
16" Crash
8",10" Splash
Paiste 2oo2 Big Beat:
15" Hi-Hats
19", 20", 21" Big Beat Multifunctional
Paiste Sound Formula:
16" Crash
20" Full Ride (Frankenstein)
Paiste Twenty:
16" China
Paiste Alpha (original Swiss made):
12" Splash
Paiste PST7:
Medium
16", 18" Crash
20" Ride
14" Hi-Hats
Sabian:
XS20 18" China
AA 14" Fusion Hi-Hats
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