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    My Wuhan 16" China which I've had for less than a year now has a big 1" crack as of 20 minutes ago. I wasn't playing too hard. I have only broken a drum head once. I'm mad at myself for cracking a cymbal, but I know these things happen. There are some guys that have never broken a cymbal, and some that have cracked hundreds.

    There's a bunch of methods to fixing this sort of thing but I want to know what you guys would do in this situation.


    Here's the damage:




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    Two options as I see it;

    A) drill a hole at the base of the crack, notch it out and continue to smack the tar out of it like the cheap cymbal it is...

    B) drop $60 on a new one

    C) drop 2X as much on a new one from Sabian, Zildjian or Paiste
    -Brian

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    Play the SONG......not the DRUMS!!!

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    Mike, go with option A.

    With respects, they sound like crap. If you buy a expensive 1, what you'll have, is a expensive China that still sounds like crap.

    I have no idea who was the 1st person to put 1 on a drum set, but I'll put a dime to a dollar, he was drunk or high on something.

    Worst cymbal I've ever heard. They blend with nothing.
    Last edited by rickthedrummer; 09-30-2016 at 11:13 PM. Reason: ===

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    You're stacking it anyway so the crack will just add to it. Play it to death, or drill it out at the end.

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    I'd cut a piece out of the cymbal and round off any sharp edges with a sanding flap wheel rather than drill stopping the crack and leaving the edges of the crack grinding together. It will lose sustain - but if you are using it as a stacker it shouldn't make much difference.

    There is a guy named Lance Campeau who frequently posts cymbal repair vids on youtube that may be worth checking out

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickthedrummer View Post
    Mike, go with option A.

    Worst cymbal I've ever heard. They blend with nothing.

    RIGHT..................go with option A.
    WRONG................China cymbals have a place...............likely the reason he owns one.
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    Play it cracked till it dies!
    I have extensive experience of this
    Been trying to finish off my crash for almost 9 months
    And save for a better replacement in the meantime!
    Bridie

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bridie View Post
    Play it cracked till it dies!
    I have extensive experience of this
    Been trying to finish off my crash for almost 9 months
    And save for a better replacement in the meantime!
    Bridie
    Was that that horrendous cymbal in your video recently? I hope you get a new one soon.

    Acoustic & Electronic:
    Tama Superstar Hyper-Drive (Birch)
    Premier Artist Maple (with Birch Snare) - yellow/fusion.
    Ludwig Acrolite (1976)
    Roland TD-1KV

    Paiste Signature:
    10" Splash
    14" Dark Crisp Hi-Hats
    14" Sound Edge Hi-Hats
    16", 17", 18", 20" Full Crash

    Paiste Formula 602:
    22" Formula 602 Modern Essentials Ride

    Paiste 2oo2:
    22" Ride

    Paiste Sound Formula:
    20" Full Ride (Frankenstein)

    Paiste Twenty:
    16" China


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricardo View Post
    RIGHT..................go with option A.
    WRONG................China cymbals have a place...............likely the reason he owns one.

    That place for a China must be next to a gong.

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    To everything, there is a season. For every China cymbal, there is a song. For Charlie Watts, that would be anywhere, anytime.
    -Brian

    "Too many crappy used drum stuff to list"

    Play the SONG......not the DRUMS!!!

    "I think that feeling is a lot more important than technique. It's all very well doing a triple paradiddle - but who's going to know you've done it? If you play technically you sound like everybody else. It's being original that counts." ~ John Bonham

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    The real question is, does it sound that much different? If you're stacking it I would think the sound wouldn't change much. No real need to drill it out if the sound is the same (unless you just want to), but with a Wuhan china I don't think the life of the cymbal will be extended much.

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    Okay? So what did we learn? How to break and fix cymbals? Stop hitting the edge head on! Stacking cymbals (I don't care how trendy it is) damages them! Raise your arms higher when you hit, get your stick more parallel to the cymbal, and swing with a slight sideways motion. A "glancing" strike. Other than that, suck it up and move on. We've all been there. I rarely break cymbals, but it's an inevitability. Ten or fifteen years of getting beaten will do that to even the best cared for pies. My cymbals cost $400-$500......each!!! And I cry a little every time one cracks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SunDog View Post
    Other than that, suck it up and move on.
    Thanks. I really appreciate that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SunDog View Post
    My cymbals cost $400-$500......each!!!

    Clearly, an exaggeration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricardo View Post
    Clearly, an exaggeration.
    19" and 20" Artisan crashes $430 and $499. 21" HH RBDR $400. And then there is my lowly 18" HH thin china $365. So you're right. One of my cymbals didnt break the $400 threshold. Not that I owe you an itemized list Ricardo, I just hate being called a liar, excuse me, I mean exaggerater.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rickthedrummer View Post
    Mike, go with option A.

    With respects, they sound like crap. If you buy a expensive 1, what you'll have, is a expensive China that still sounds like crap.

    I have no idea who was the 1st person to put 1 on a drum set, but I'll put a dime to a dollar, he was drunk or high on something.

    Worst cymbal I've ever heard. They blend with nothing.
    Could not agree more. Every drummer in this area has one. Except me. They are the equivalent of the sound a cat makes when you castrate them with a dull pocket knife.

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    Tex

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    Quote Originally Posted by SunDog View Post
    19" and 20" Artisan crashes $430 and $499. 21" HH RBDR $400. And then there is my lowly 18" HH thin china $365. So you're right. One of my cymbals didnt break the $400 threshold. Not that I owe you an itemized list Ricardo, I just hate being called a liar, excuse me, I mean exaggerater.
    I made this thread to find a way to repair my cymbal. Not to read this offensive garbage. You make me laugh!
    Last edited by FlyByNight; 10-01-2016 at 11:26 PM.
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    China cymbals sound kind of trashy anyways. maybe the crack will give it more character!

    I've yet to buy brand new cymbals myself. I'll hit craigslist ,pawnshops I'll even buy cracked cymbals if the crack isn't in the bell or isn't too high up and then I'll take tin snips and cut em down to a smaller size. Save the scrap for the junk man.
    But yeah I've got some killer deals on cymbals I bought some killer quick beat high hats and a really nice zildjian K dry ride all used and less than half of what they retail for. I agree china's are an acquired taste and not for everybody. Also I look at the stick size as well... I mean if you are using these big logs for sticks somethings gotta give!
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyByNight View Post
    I made this thread to find a way to repair my cymbal. Not to read this offensive garbage. You make me laugh!
    You can't fix it. Or did you not get that? Offensive garbage? Well here's some really offensive commentary. You bought a crappy cymbal, stacked it, and then hit it with equally crappy technique. Go buy another one, but please be sure to stack it and hit the edge. Good luck son.

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    FBN, I say go with option A ...
    Last edited by dangermoney; 10-01-2016 at 11:36 PM.

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    Alot of good advice stacking, drilling, leave it alone. I also say replace it, I don't know how much16" Wuhan China's are going for these days but I still think under $100?. I have the same China and it's 16 years old and I have beat that thing to death. No cracks, keyholing, and very durable. Truly I'm really surprised yours cracked under a year old .

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    You want "trashy"? You got trashy! It'll probably get trashier as the crack spreads. Whang the heck out of it and buy another is likely the way to go.

    all the best...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SunDog View Post
    19" and 20" Artisan crashes $430 and $499. 21" HH RBDR $400.
    Artisans....................I should have guessed and I stand corrected.
    Way too much money for Sabians................and you break them ?

    Quote Originally Posted by SunDog View Post
    You bought a crappy cymbal, stacked it, and then hit it with equally crappy technique.
    Dog !
    That was actually funny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SunDog View Post
    You can't fix it. Or did you not get that? Offensive garbage? Well here's some really offensive commentary. You bought a crappy cymbal, stacked it, and then hit it with equally crappy technique. Go buy another one, but please be sure to stack it and hit the edge. Good luck son.
    I bought the cymbal because I liked the sound. That's what matters. I shouldn't have to worry about getting bashed for that here.
    Last edited by FlyByNight; 10-02-2016 at 09:25 AM.
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    Play it like you stole it lol
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