Two options as I see it;
A) drill a hole at the base of the crack, notch it out and continue to smack the tar out of it like the cheap cymbal it is...
B) drop $60 on a new one
C) drop 2X as much on a new one from Sabian, Zildjian or Paiste
My Wuhan 16" China which I've had for less than a year now has a big 1" crack as of 20 minutes ago. I wasn't playing too hard. I have only broken a drum head once. I'm mad at myself for cracking a cymbal, but I know these things happen. There are some guys that have never broken a cymbal, and some that have cracked hundreds.
There's a bunch of methods to fixing this sort of thing but I want to know what you guys would do in this situation.
Here's the damage:
Two options as I see it;
A) drill a hole at the base of the crack, notch it out and continue to smack the tar out of it like the cheap cymbal it is...
B) drop $60 on a new one
C) drop 2X as much on a new one from Sabian, Zildjian or Paiste
-Brian
"Too many crappy used drum stuff to list"
Play the SONG......not the DRUMS!!!
"I think that feeling is a lot more important than technique. It's all very well doing a triple paradiddle - but who's going to know you've done it? If you play technically you sound like everybody else. It's being original that counts." ~ John Bonham
Mike, go with option A.
With respects, they sound like crap. If you buy a expensive 1, what you'll have, is a expensive China that still sounds like crap.
I have no idea who was the 1st person to put 1 on a drum set, but I'll put a dime to a dollar, he was drunk or high on something.
Worst cymbal I've ever heard. They blend with nothing.
Last edited by rickthedrummer; 09-30-2016 at 11:13 PM. Reason: ===
You're stacking it anyway so the crack will just add to it. Play it to death, or drill it out at the end.
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Pearl Prestige World Series WLX 1988
Tama Swingstar 1983
Tama Superstar Hyper-Drive (Birch) 2007
Ludwig Acrolite Snare 1976
Ludwig Supraphonic 6.5x14" 2021
Pearl Sensitone Elite Aluminum 5.5" and 6.5" Snare
Pearl COB Custom Deluxe [Gladstone] (75-76) Snare
Love Drum Co. Hammered Steel 5.5" Snare
Roland TD-1KV
Paiste
Accent 8"
Paiste Signature:
6", 10" Splash
14" Dark Crisp Hi-Hats
14" Sound Edge Hi-Hats
16", 17", 18",19", 20" Full Crash
22" Symphonic Med-Heavy (use as a Ride)
Paiste Formula 602:
22" Formula 602 Modern Essentials Ride
Paiste 2oo2:
22" Ride
16" Crash
8",10" Splash
Paiste 2oo2 Big Beat:
15" Hi-Hats
19", 20", 21" Big Beat Multifunctional
Paiste Sound Formula:
16" Crash
20" Full Ride (Frankenstein)
Paiste Twenty:
16" China
Paiste Alpha (original Swiss made):
12" Splash
Paiste PST7:
Medium
16", 18" Crash
20" Ride
14" Hi-Hats
Sabian:
XS20 18" China
AA 14" Fusion Hi-Hats
I'd cut a piece out of the cymbal and round off any sharp edges with a sanding flap wheel rather than drill stopping the crack and leaving the edges of the crack grinding together. It will lose sustain - but if you are using it as a stacker it shouldn't make much difference.
There is a guy named Lance Campeau who frequently posts cymbal repair vids on youtube that may be worth checking out
Play it cracked till it dies!
I have extensive experience of this
Been trying to finish off my crash for almost 9 months
And save for a better replacement in the meantime!
Bridie
Acoustic & Electronic:
Pearl Prestige World Series WLX 1988
Tama Swingstar 1983
Tama Superstar Hyper-Drive (Birch) 2007
Ludwig Acrolite Snare 1976
Ludwig Supraphonic 6.5x14" 2021
Pearl Sensitone Elite Aluminum 5.5" and 6.5" Snare
Pearl COB Custom Deluxe [Gladstone] (75-76) Snare
Love Drum Co. Hammered Steel 5.5" Snare
Roland TD-1KV
Paiste
Accent 8"
Paiste Signature:
6", 10" Splash
14" Dark Crisp Hi-Hats
14" Sound Edge Hi-Hats
16", 17", 18",19", 20" Full Crash
22" Symphonic Med-Heavy (use as a Ride)
Paiste Formula 602:
22" Formula 602 Modern Essentials Ride
Paiste 2oo2:
22" Ride
16" Crash
8",10" Splash
Paiste 2oo2 Big Beat:
15" Hi-Hats
19", 20", 21" Big Beat Multifunctional
Paiste Sound Formula:
16" Crash
20" Full Ride (Frankenstein)
Paiste Twenty:
16" China
Paiste Alpha (original Swiss made):
12" Splash
Paiste PST7:
Medium
16", 18" Crash
20" Ride
14" Hi-Hats
Sabian:
XS20 18" China
AA 14" Fusion Hi-Hats
To everything, there is a season. For every China cymbal, there is a song. For Charlie Watts, that would be anywhere, anytime.
-Brian
"Too many crappy used drum stuff to list"
Play the SONG......not the DRUMS!!!
"I think that feeling is a lot more important than technique. It's all very well doing a triple paradiddle - but who's going to know you've done it? If you play technically you sound like everybody else. It's being original that counts." ~ John Bonham
The real question is, does it sound that much different? If you're stacking it I would think the sound wouldn't change much. No real need to drill it out if the sound is the same (unless you just want to), but with a Wuhan china I don't think the life of the cymbal will be extended much.
Okay? So what did we learn? How to break and fix cymbals? Stop hitting the edge head on! Stacking cymbals (I don't care how trendy it is) damages them! Raise your arms higher when you hit, get your stick more parallel to the cymbal, and swing with a slight sideways motion. A "glancing" strike. Other than that, suck it up and move on. We've all been there. I rarely break cymbals, but it's an inevitability. Ten or fifteen years of getting beaten will do that to even the best cared for pies. My cymbals cost $400-$500......each!!! And I cry a little every time one cracks.
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19" and 20" Artisan crashes $430 and $499. 21" HH RBDR $400. And then there is my lowly 18" HH thin china $365. So you're right. One of my cymbals didnt break the $400 threshold. Not that I owe you an itemized list Ricardo, I just hate being called a liar, excuse me, I mean exaggerater.
Last edited by SunDog; 10-01-2016 at 10:41 PM.
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China cymbals sound kind of trashy anyways. maybe the crack will give it more character!
I've yet to buy brand new cymbals myself. I'll hit craigslist ,pawnshops I'll even buy cracked cymbals if the crack isn't in the bell or isn't too high up and then I'll take tin snips and cut em down to a smaller size. Save the scrap for the junk man.
But yeah I've got some killer deals on cymbals I bought some killer quick beat high hats and a really nice zildjian K dry ride all used and less than half of what they retail for. I agree china's are an acquired taste and not for everybody. Also I look at the stick size as well... I mean if you are using these big logs for sticks somethings gotta give!
I had a lot of time to think it over lying in this hospital bed...
I monkeyed with another monkey's monkey
And her gorilla whupped upon my head!~Johnny Paycheck
You can't fix it. Or did you not get that? Offensive garbage? Well here's some really offensive commentary. You bought a crappy cymbal, stacked it, and then hit it with equally crappy technique. Go buy another one, but please be sure to stack it and hit the edge. Good luck son.
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10x8,12x9,15x12,16x14,20x18,24x16
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14x8 Collectors Black Nickel over Brass
FBN, I say go with option A ...
Last edited by dangermoney; 10-01-2016 at 11:36 PM.
Alot of good advice stacking, drilling, leave it alone. I also say replace it, I don't know how much16" Wuhan China's are going for these days but I still think under $100?. I have the same China and it's 16 years old and I have beat that thing to death. No cracks, keyholing, and very durable. Truly I'm really surprised yours cracked under a year old .
You want "trashy"? You got trashy! It'll probably get trashier as the crack spreads. Whang the heck out of it and buy another is likely the way to go.
all the best...
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Play it like you stole it lol
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