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    Was just watching an interview with Ringo Starr. Never realized he was left handed, playing on a right-hand kit. In part that's why he has a signature sound, an example is the intro drumming on "Come Together". He does the rolls from hi hat to floor tom to tom tom. He said it's because he's left handed and had to do it that way.

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    Yep. Also, he pretty much played whatever & however he felt. Made it up as he went and never played a song the same way twice...or at least so he claims. I was never a huge Beatles fan, but I can appreciate his creativity and uniqueness. I think he's also a genuinely nice guy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by N2Bluz View Post
    Yep. Also, he pretty much played whatever & however he felt. Made it up as he went and never played a song the same way twice...or at least so he claims. I was never a huge Beatles fan, but I can appreciate his creativity and uniqueness. I think he's also a genuinely nice guy.
    I would have to agree. Never a huge fan and I heard he was extremely down to earth.
    I also am a lefty playing right and like the creativity behind the ability.

    Makes me wonder, how many drummers strive to play each song the same every single time and who wing it.
    I tend to wing it but the core of course is the same, and the important fills are the same.
    But I add lib a lot and just have fun.
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    I saw this tribute to Ringo recently and I never get tired of it. I was four years old when the Beatles were on the Ed Sullivan Show and I was confused by all of the screaming. It was really frightening for me to watch these girls literally go mad over these guys. Then it dawned on me later why.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SpazApproved View Post
    I would have to agree. Never a huge fan and I heard he was extremely down to earth.
    I also am a lefty playing right and like the creativity behind the ability.

    Makes me wonder, how many drummers strive to play each song the same every single time and who wing it.
    I tend to wing it but the core of course is the same, and the important fills are the same.
    But I add lib a lot and just have fun.
    I'm pretty much the same. I basically just wing it. I typically keep close to the same rythum structure for each individual song, but sometimes I even deviate that. Fills are always improvised...but if I play something that I like, I try to remember it the next time.

    To some extent, I have to play that way. Some nights, our lead vocalist can make Willie Nelson sound consistent, LOL. I need to stay alert, anticipate what he's going to do next and be ready to drop or add a beat on the fly if needed. There are many times when the impromptu emotion and energy of the band is almost magical....and a few times when I just ride it out in the pocket and pray for the song to end, LOL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by late8 View Post
    I saw this tribute to Ringo recently and I never get tired of it. I was four years old when the Beatles were on the Ed Sullivan Show and I was confused by all of the screaming. It was really frightening for me to watch these girls literally go mad over these guys. Then it dawned on me later why.

    Great video and tribute to Ringo he's my favourite out of the Beatles....but admittedly i was never a fan but Ringo always seemed to be the joker and most likeable

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    as long as everybody else knows that it might not be played the same and are ok with that then it shouldn't be a problem.

    I keep to the recorded version of what we play to a certain degree.. but do a little extra sticking in places that won't effect the important ques of the songs
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    I'm left handed as well . Eat, throw, write, driving, cook, but playing drums right handed. I tried setting up left before and it felt weird to me. Funny how the brain works, I'm a mechanic and I use tools in both hands neither hand is dominant.

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    Personally I don't consider Ringo as under rated. I believe he got his due recognition. With a single television appearance he took the Ludwig Drum Company from a medium size business to a gigantic business in a matter of weeks. No drummer before or since can make that claim. Long story short, he inspired a lot of people to take up the drums.

    all the best...

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    i agree with kay-gee here. he's not underrated maybe a bit overlooked at times. He's had his share of magazine covers that's for sure.
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    For some reason this guy doesn't get the recognition that he deserves. I've been on other forums where this topic is highly debated. I also have to admit I'm not a big Beatles fan as well. But I do give Ringo credit for what he has done with his career.

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    Rich................thanks for posting that video................very cool.
    I have always been a huge Beatle fan and a Ringo fan...................if there was ever a band that received divine intervention....................

    In addition to all of the agreeable information in that video, I would suggest Mr. Starkey (smartly) made the most of his opportunity.
    He also overcame alcoholism and is still making the most of his opportunities with the All-Starr bands.
    I've seen three of them live and they are magnificent....................a very smart and successful idea.

    I too am a lefty playing righty...............the right-hand leads are no problem.
    I write and throw left................everything else is righty..............especially swinging bats and golf clubs.
    I kick field goals and soccer balls equally as well with either foot.
    But......................I do use a left foot lead on most double-bass patterns.................weird but I make it work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goro View Post
    For some reason this guy doesn't get the recognition that he deserves. I've been on other forums where this topic is highly debated. I also have to admit I'm not a big Beatles fan as well. But I do give Ringo credit for what he has done with his career.
    But, I mean in his time he got tons of recognition. We must remember that Beatlemania was over 50 years ago. There are millions of pop/rock groups that I hear every day on the radio, and elsewhere, that I couldn't even name any of the band members let alone the drummers name.

    all the best...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kay-gee View Post
    But, I mean in his time he got tons of recognition. We must remember that Beatlemania was over 50 years ago. There are millions of pop/rock groups that I hear every day on the radio, and elsewhere, that I couldn't even name any of the band members let alone the drummers name.

    all the best...
    I agree 100%

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    Can't argue with what kay-gee said about Ringo and Ludwigs. Past that point, "I am a/the walrus" and "We all live in a yellow submarine", please, give me a break. If they came from Brooklyn, they would have been laughed out of town.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickthedrummer View Post
    Can't argue with what kay-gee said about Ringo and Ludwigs. Past that point, "I am a/the walrus" and "We all live in a yellow submarine", please, give me a break. If they came from Brooklyn, they would have been laughed out of town.
    I'm with you on that one, Rick. That whole Psych phase they went through was not my favorite either. They got pretty bizarre. However, it was their departure from the "norm" and mixing of styles, non-traditional instruments and such that opened the door for creativity within the business. Even though I don't care for 99% of their stuff, I do respect their pioneering efforts.
    That said, there's still a couple of their songs that I crank up when they come on the radio..... Let It Be and While My Guitar Gently Weeps.
    -Brian

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    Play the SONG......not the DRUMS!!!

    "I think that feeling is a lot more important than technique. It's all very well doing a triple paradiddle - but who's going to know you've done it? If you play technically you sound like everybody else. It's being original that counts." ~ John Bonham

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickthedrummer View Post
    If they came from Brooklyn, they would have been laughed out of town.
    The Beatles were such a money-train, even the great Brooklyn jazzers couldn't resist:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2ZDfVSoqoM


    Quote Originally Posted by N2Bluz View Post
    Even though I don't care for 99% of their stuff, I do respect their pioneering efforts.
    That said, there's still a couple of their songs that I crank up when they come on the radio..... Let It Be and While My Guitar Gently Weeps.
    Great songs...................funny you chose WMGGW -- Eric Clapton plays the uncredited lead guitar part on that recording.
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    Quote Originally Posted by N2Bluz View Post
    I'm with you on that one, Rick. That whole Psych phase they went through was not my favorite either. They got pretty bizarre. However, it was their departure from the "norm" and mixing of styles, non-traditional instruments and such that opened the door for creativity within the business. Even though I don't care for 99% of their stuff, I do respect their pioneering efforts.
    That said, there's still a couple of their songs that I crank up when they come on the radio..... Let It Be and While My Guitar Gently Weeps.
    I think it was more the mixing of drugs than styles. Music would be right where it is now if they never left England.

    True Story: The night the beatles were going to be on Ed Sullivan, my friend came to pick me up and we were going to meet our GF's for pizza (large pie $1.00, pitcher of coke, $0.50). My mother and my Aunt were waiting to see the beatles so we decided to stay and watch them, see what the fuss was all about. Ed Sullivan does his "here on our "shew", the beatles", at which point the girls start screaming. My mother and Aunt thought they were so cute, my friend and I watched them do, if I remember right, 2 songs, shrugged our shoulders and went to meet our GF's.

    Fast forward about 5 years. I had just left the Air Force and my friend, who was going to wait to be drafted, never was. He was working as a go'fer in a big NYC paper, and, over the years, with his knowledge of music, had become 1 of the 2 music critics. On the 25th anniversary of the beatles coming to America, his editor wanted him and the other critic to write their thoughts on the beatles. My friend wrote his, handed it to the editor, who promptly tore it up. He had to write a suck-up column that was used on the anniversary. My friend's original column was his true feelings on the beatles. When the editor tore it up, he asked my friend if he wanted death threats because that's what he would get from (editor's words) "All the freakin' beatle nuts out there will want your a$$", so he had to re-write his column.

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    Now that's a crazy story! I wondered why all these columnist and DJs suck up to these artist. There afraid of the recoil from the public

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    "Now that's a crazy story! I wondered why all these columnist and DJs suck up to these artist. There afraid of the recoil from the public"

    Years ago, it was just letter's to the editor. Now it's your a$$ at 10 paces.

    In all of the years I played, 1st band in 1961, until 2005, I've never been asked to play a beatles song.

    There are 4 things I wouldn't do or ever have:

    1) I never did cowbell and, obviously never will.

    B) Will never own a china cymbal. The worst sounding cymbal EVER.

    3) Never owned a metronome. If you can't count to 4?????????????????????????

    D) Never played a beatles song, obviously never will.

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    Rick...................I completely agree with #3.
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