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    Hi.

    I seem to remember seeing loads of times a link to a tutorial for the sort of half straight/half swung 8th note groove that was on lots of stuff in the 60's in particular. But now I want to have a look at it, I can't find it. Anyone able to point me towards it?

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    Andy

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    I can't but lemme know if you do, because I'd love to check it out to
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    Quote Originally Posted by CycleDude View Post
    I can't but lemme know if you do, because I'd love to check it out to
    Certainly will. I'm sure I'll trip over it again soon.

    BTW, re your other posts, I like the way you think. we seem to be on a similar wavelength. In more ways than one:-



    Cheers

    Andy

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    was it in video format? or just notation.



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    That "Swing 8th note feeling" comes from the Shuffle pattern so popular in the 60's. Think in Triplets and play the 1st and 3rd note of each triplet. It was often written as a dotted 8th and 16th note but never played that strictly. The correct way of writing it out is in 12/8 time as 1/4 note followed by 8th note. Thus, it would sound as Long...short, Long...short, Long...short, Long..short. For ease of reading, it was more practical to write the pattern in 4/4 time as the dotted 8th and 16th pattern BUT was taught to be played as the 12/8 pattern to get the proper "Swing." Isn't music history fun?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fiacovaz View Post
    That "Swing 8th note feeling" comes from the Shuffle pattern so popular in the 60's. Think in Triplets and play the 1st and 3rd note of each triplet. It was often written as a dotted 8th and 16th note but never played that strictly. The correct way of writing it out is in 12/8 time as 1/4 note followed by 8th note. Thus, it would sound as Long...short, Long...short, Long...short, Long..short. For ease of reading, it was more practical to write the pattern in 4/4 time as the dotted 8th and 16th pattern BUT was taught to be played as the 12/8 pattern to get the proper "Swing." Isn't music history fun?
    Hiya.

    Thanks for the reply, but that isn't what I meant. I understand the triplet based shufflle, but there was a lot of music that was somewhere between the absolute straight 8th notes, an the triplet based groove. It was that that I was looking for.

    Cheers

    Andy

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyC View Post
    Hiya.

    Thanks for the reply, but that isn't what I meant. I understand the triplet based shufflle, but there was a lot of music that was somewhere between the absolute straight 8th notes, an the triplet based groove. It was that that I was looking for.

    Cheers

    Andy
    like a soul or motown kinda groove, bernard purdie like?



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    Quote Originally Posted by ratmycue View Post
    like a soul or motown kinda groove, bernard purdie like?
    I guess more like some of the Little Richard stuff. It almost sounds like some of the band are playing straight, and some are playing swung. I can play this stuff OK, but just want to get better, more comfortable with it.

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    Andy

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyC View Post
    I guess more like some of the Little Richard stuff. It almost sounds like some of the band are playing straight, and some are playing swung. I can play this stuff OK, but just want to get better, more comfortable with it.

    Cheers

    Andy
    ok, I know what you mean now, so was it in notation or in video format the tutorial?



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    I think I've heard what you're talking about... are you referring to the style of drumming you might hear on 'Fool In The Rain'? Where it's not shuffle, but it's not straight eighths either?
    It's called in the cracks drumming and is very prevalent in a lot of New Orleans style drumming. I have a couple of copies of rhythm kicking about with some lessons on it. I'll find them for you later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ratmycue View Post
    ok, I know what you mean now, so was it in notation or in video format the tutorial?
    Sorry, don't know. Doh!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethel_The_Frog View Post
    I think I've heard what you're talking about... are you referring to the style of drumming you might hear on 'Fool In The Rain'? Where it's not shuffle, but it's not straight eighths either?
    It's called in the cracks drumming and is very prevalent in a lot of New Orleans style drumming. I have a couple of copies of rhythm kicking about with some lessons on it. I'll find them for you later.
    Brilliant thanks.

    Andy

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    I was about to say New Orleans. Check out "second line" drumming.

    all the best...

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