DrumChat.com - Drummer Forum / DRUM FORUM for Drums

Go Back   DrumChat.com - Drummer Forum / DRUM FORUM for Drums > More Drumming Topics > Tuning / Care / Maintenance

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 02-27-2010, 10:05 AM
Christiandrummer777 Christiandrummer777 is offline
Senior Member (Respected Chatter)
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 483
Default snare and bass tuning

all right, so i cant seem to get the right sound out of my snare. im using a 14x5 yamaha stage custom noveau (birch real mahogny mix) witth a G2 over Hazy 300. currently too ringy. i want a snare soung like on john mayer's drummer, or if you could go to emissary band.com and listen some sound file, thats really what i want, but i do not tthink i can get that out of my snare. and as for my bass drum, i want it to be nice and low, but focused, not ringy. im using stock yamaha heads with an evans pacth. i want a bass drum sound that really can drive, so try to approch it as a really low tom, not so much a bass drum. but i want a little punch. any ideas? thanks guys.
__________________
"it aint got no thing if it aint got that swing"

Yamaha Stage Custom Noveau
10,12,14,20,14 (standard 2 up 1 down)
Evans EC2 over Remo Ambassador Resos
Evans Genera Dry over ambassador resos
DW 5002 double bass pedal
Sabian 14 inch AAX Xcelerator hats
Sabian 14 inch HHX X-plosion crash
Sabian 16 inch AAX studio crash
Zildjian 17 inch Z custom crash
Sabian 21 inch AA rock ride
Zildjian 18 inch oriental china trash
Agrazian 10 inch Splash
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 02-27-2010, 10:41 AM
yohin's Avatar
yohin yohin is offline
Top Dog (Don't mess wit me!)
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: California
Posts: 4,813
Default Re: snare and bass tuning

(I'm going by the sound of the snare on that website).

You're not going to get a sound exactly like that without micing up your kit. That being said, I was going for the same sort of sound awhile ago, and I had a G2 over Hazy 300 as well. What I did was tune the batter down pretty low, but not so low that it's unresponsive, and then tune the reso even looser. Then stick a moongel on there and you should be pretty close. And FYI the snare I was using was a birch/basswood Tama Superstar 14x5.5, which is similar to your snare. I agree, neither of them are the best snares for getting that kind of sound, but it can be done.

As for the bass, it will always have too much ring if you're using the stock head. Try an Aquarian SK2 or an Evans EMAD with a ported reso and nothing inside the drum. If it still has too much sustain stick a small bathroom towel or couch pillow or t-shirt or something like that in there.
__________________
~ TAMA ~ SABIAN ~ EVANS ~ AQUARIAN ~ VATER ~

~ Sabian Squad ~
~ SGD's Evans Empire ~
~ Phrogge's Aquarian Army ~


Tamaholic!

Fumbled Time: Can we just have a drum battle?
Ludwigkid: whoever wins, wins russ's servitude for the rest of eternity.

"thomas pridgen is more important than family" - Shabutie

"I'll never say anything good enough for someone's sig." - Constinator

Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 02-27-2010, 10:59 AM
Christiandrummer777 Christiandrummer777 is offline
Senior Member (Respected Chatter)
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 483
Default Re: snare and bass tuning

thanks yohin. ill give that a shot.... ive seen the band live, and the snare sounds the same, and he was only mciing his bass drum. as for the bass i konw i need a EMAD, but i dont have any money right now lol. (gotta pay for magic music days @ disneyland, cant wait to play their kit of there- last year it was a maple custom absolute)
__________________
"it aint got no thing if it aint got that swing"

Yamaha Stage Custom Noveau
10,12,14,20,14 (standard 2 up 1 down)
Evans EC2 over Remo Ambassador Resos
Evans Genera Dry over ambassador resos
DW 5002 double bass pedal
Sabian 14 inch AAX Xcelerator hats
Sabian 14 inch HHX X-plosion crash
Sabian 16 inch AAX studio crash
Zildjian 17 inch Z custom crash
Sabian 21 inch AA rock ride
Zildjian 18 inch oriental china trash
Agrazian 10 inch Splash
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 02-27-2010, 02:51 PM
kaosotis's Avatar
kaosotis kaosotis is online now
Top Dog (Don't mess wit me!)
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 1,683
Default Re: snare and bass tuning

I would say the ported reso might be the key. I've got an EMAD on my Tour Customs (and Renowns) with stock resos and the sound is good, but I had a more focused sound on my Tamas with the EMAD2 and a ported EQ3.

In terms of the snare, have you thrown a ring on there? The Remo one's are good, and if you need more, go with Aquarian Studio Rings.
__________________
Jesse

2009 Yamaha Tour Custom - Ocean Blue Lacquer
2007 Gretsch Renown - Slate Silver Sparkle (on loan from my bro)
1986 Tama Crestar - Lacquered White
2008 Tama SuperStar HyperDrive - Brushed Metallic Black (son's kit)
Yamaha DTXpress III - also on loan from my bro

http://www.halfwaytosanity.com
http://www.myspace.com/halfwaytosanity
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 02-27-2010, 04:05 PM
Christiandrummer777 Christiandrummer777 is offline
Senior Member (Respected Chatter)
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 483
Default Re: snare and bass tuning

i have an evans e ring and a yamaha ring that ill use soemtimes. what i really want to know for the bass drum is how do i get the sound i want with the current heads
__________________
"it aint got no thing if it aint got that swing"

Yamaha Stage Custom Noveau
10,12,14,20,14 (standard 2 up 1 down)
Evans EC2 over Remo Ambassador Resos
Evans Genera Dry over ambassador resos
DW 5002 double bass pedal
Sabian 14 inch AAX Xcelerator hats
Sabian 14 inch HHX X-plosion crash
Sabian 16 inch AAX studio crash
Zildjian 17 inch Z custom crash
Sabian 21 inch AA rock ride
Zildjian 18 inch oriental china trash
Agrazian 10 inch Splash
Reply With Quote
Reply

RSS Feeds
Add To Your RSS Reader
Add to Google
Add to My Yahoo!
Add to myAOL
Subscribe in NewsGator Online
Add to My MSN

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:08 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2010, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Forum SEO by Zoints
DrumChat.com - Chat about Drums, Drumming, Drumsets, Drummers, and Percussion.
Tell your friends about this cool drum forum!

Cool Drum Websites
Drum Bum | Drum Books | Drum Tips | Drum Rudiments | Drum DVDs | Drum Lessons
Drum T-shirts | Drum Lessons | Gifts for Musicians | Drumming | Drumsticks | Music Tshirts