Meinl Cymbals

[Mirkko DeMaio]

Quick question for all you Meinl folks. I bought my first Byzance this week, an 18" Dark crash, that might be the beginning of my conversion from AAX. Thinking about getting a ride and hi hats next.

What have you found to be the difference between the Dark Rides and Dark Raw Bell Rides? Is the only difference that the bell has more focus? Does the bell change how the cymbal sounds and reacts? I don't have a place close to listen so I'm looking for some thoughts.

Thanks.

Thw Dark Bell Ride is slighter heavier…so it has got more "ping"-

[rrfpacker]

Thw Dark Bell Ride is slighter heavier…so it has got more "ping"-

Thank you. On youtube the raw bell seems to have more wash with the ping, and the dark seems a bit more crashable. Is that your experience?

[Mirkko DeMaio]

Thank you. On youtube the raw bell seems to have more wash with the ping, and the dark seems a bit more crashable. Is that your experience?

Exactly.

[TonyFreeDrum]

I played Meinl Once... and I was impressed by the sound quality of even their cheapest cymbals....

[corsair]

It depends the time you played them. Before 2005 Meinl had fewer cymbals line than today which means that their cymbals were better in comparison with Paiste ,Zildjian etc .

[Bite The Sky]

Hey guys! I'm in a conundrum right now. I can't decide between the Zildjian K Hybrid 14" Hi Hats and the Meinl Byzance 14" Fast Hats. I love them both, but I can't decide which one i like more. I'n in a band playing a mix from classic rock to punk to metal to jazz. I like the Zildjian K Hybrids because of the chic and heavier, deeper sound, but I also love the Meinl Byzance Fast Hats with vents and the fast, click kind of sound. I really can't decide which I like more and I was wondering if you guys could help. Thanks!

SETUP

• DW Performance Series - Black Diamond Finish Ply
• Pearl 1983 Brass Free Floating Snare
• Zildjian A 20" Crash
• Zildjian Z Custom 19" Crash
• Zildjian K Hybrid 22" Ride
• Zildjian 18" Trash Oriental China
• Zildjian ZHT 8" Splash

[longgun]

Hey guys! I'm in a conundrum right now. I can't decide between the Zildjian K Hybrid 14" Hi Hats and the Meinl Byzance 14" Fast Hats. I love them both, but I can't decide which one i like more. I'n in a band playing a mix from classic rock to punk to metal to jazz. I like the Zildjian K Hybrids because of the chic and heavier, deeper sound, but I also love the Meinl Byzance Fast Hats with vents and the fast, click kind of sound. I really can't decide which I like more and I was wondering if you guys could help. Thanks!

SETUP

• DW Performance Series - Black Diamond Finish Ply
• Pearl 1983 Brass Free Floating Snare
• Zildjian A 20" Crash
• Zildjian Z Custom 19" Crash
• Zildjian K Hybrid 22" Ride
• Zildjian 18" Trash Oriental China
• Zildjian ZHT 8" Splash

If it was me..........I'd go with the K hybrids...................

[501208]

My Meinl cymbal family ( Classics, Classics Custom, including the new Classics Custom Dark Ride)

[Mirkko DeMaio]

New dark stuff for me
Byzance Extra Dry china 18"
Byzance Vintage Pure Light ride 22"
Byzance Extra Dry Mike Johnston's Transition ride 21"
Byzance Vintage Trash crash 18"
Byzance Vintage Medium crash 18"
Byzance Vintage Sand hat 14"

They sound absolutely phenomenal!

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Some of them on my "heavy" kit

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[piratemonkey124]

I'm taking my first leap into meinl. Just bought a 10" piccolo china. Hope it sounds like it did on the videos.and sound samples.

[BackStreetDrums]

Always a 'Turkey' guy (hold off the sarcasm), I have been a Bosphorus, and Bosphorus lover only.

Recently looked into the Byzance line, splurged on an ebay deal where I offered, and was accepted, a 20" Byzance Sand thin crash for $240.It is a 'store demo' still covered with a 2yr warranty, so I had to 'chance' it...It is on the way, purchased with no sound file other than seeing one at local GC.

Looking forward to its arrival this week. This may be the start of my conversion to the Byzance line. I need to sell some Bos pies...would like to add an 18" Dry crash, and Jazz ride.

[Jemini]

Always a 'Turkey' guy (hold off the sarcasm), I have been a Bosphorus, and Bosphorus lover only.

Recently looked into the Byzance line, splurged on an ebay deal where I offered, and was accepted, a 20" Byzance Sand thin crash for $240.It is a 'store demo' still covered with a 2yr warranty, so I had to 'chance' it...It is on the way, purchased with no sound file other than seeing one at local GC.

Looking forward to its arrival this week. This may be the start of my conversion to the Byzance line. I need to sell some Bos pies...would like to add an 18" Dry crash, and Jazz ride.

I love my 18" Sand thin crash, I could only imagine the 20" would be just as awesome. I could see my self getting that one eventually but for now my 20" Traditional Hand Hammered crash fits my needs

Love the Byzance line, so many unique sounds from this line

[Bring Me The Alexandria]

I used to have a Byzance Dark China 18" that thing was an absolute beast. I'm a Sabian guy myself, but man.. That China was amazing.

[BackStreetDrums]

I took the plunge....sold off some Bos pies, replaced with Byzance..got the 20" I mentioned above, since then , added an 18" Jazz crash....trying to sell a 21" Bos Master ride..when I do, will get a Byzance NY Ride..

Meinl has converted me from years behind Bosphorus to their Byzance line.

[BackStreetDrums]

Hey gearwhore, I have a question.

Looking for a nice Byzance jazz ride that is very close to the traditional jazz sound of the 50's-60's.

I am on the fence between the Big Apple Ride or the New Tradition 22" Light Jazz ride...any thoughts? Perhaps another in the Byzance Jazz series?

[GuiCeeAddict]

You'd be a great guy to ask this to then:

If I wanted to replicate an Electrostack with Zildjian, how would I do so? Which cymbal combo can come closest?

[BackStreetDrums]

Looking for a Byzance ride that is very similar to a Bosphorus Master Vintage FLAT ride/click click woody sound...would that be the Byzance Dark Ride, Dry Ride or the new Vintage Pure Ride?

Yes, would be easier to buy a Bos, but I am sold on the Byzance series, and that is what I have, so wish to 'stay in the family'

[DrummingAllTheWayHome]

So guess who bought a Meinl Byzance Sand Ride today? Not me because I bought Meinl Byzance Traditional heavy Hi hats 14" Next to brand new. for a bargain £190. Amazing hi hats. Hmm..Meinl Byzance Trad medium crashes next..

[DrummingAllTheWayHome]

Update: Still loving the Byzance Heavy Hi Hats. I also bought a Meinl Byzance Traditional Byzance Crash 18" I got it today can't wait to play it

[DrummingAllTheWayHome]

Played I love it so much! Meinl Byzance's traditional range is the perfect range along with Zildian K's

[Mirkko DeMaio]

mine

[BackStreetDrums]

Looking for a Byzance ride that is very similar to a Bosphorus Master Vintage FLAT ride/click click woody sound...would that be the Byzance Dark Ride, Dry Ride or the new Vintage Pure Ride?

Yes, would be easier to buy a Bos, but I am sold on the Byzance series, and that is what I have, so wish to 'stay in the family'

ANYONE????

[pcs90]

In the past month I've replaced all my crashes with Meinl Byzance cymbals. These are absolutely amazing. Next, to replace my ride with a 20" Dark Raw Bell Ride...though I'm happy with my hats, splashes, chinas and stacks so will probably keep all of those as is.
16" Vintage Crash
16" Dark Crash
17" Extra Dry Thin Crash
18" Traditional Extra Thin Hammered Crash
The 17" Extra Dry can even be used as a dry ride. They all have a really dark, earthy sound to them and are very responsive.

Also in response to earlier comments, the Byzance line is hand-hammered in Turkey. From what I've been told, Meinl has their own factory there. The other lines such as Soundcaster, MB20, GenerationX etc are made in Germany, most if not all by machine.

[pcs90]

Looking for a Byzance ride that is very similar to a Bosphorus Master Vintage FLAT ride/click click woody sound...would that be the Byzance Dark Ride, Dry Ride or the new Vintage Pure Ride?

Yes, would be easier to buy a Bos, but I am sold on the Byzance series, and that is what I have, so wish to 'stay in the family'

Meinl does make flat rides as well. I think they're only prototypes, but do some searching and you may find them for sale.

[BackStreetDrums]

Found a 20" Extra Thin Jazz ride...how would this work as a jazz crash?

Too much sustain? Enough?...would use more as a crash than ride...priced locally really low...beats cost of a jazz crash which is why considering.