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    Hey all,

    I have a 14 inch Tama Metalworks snare, my question is how do I get that really tight sound a lot of metal drummers have these days?

    Like in this


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    I have a question for you before I answer this:
    On your snare by the switch, is there a knob?
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    Quote Originally Posted by concrete Building View Post
    I have a question for you before I answer this:
    On your snare by the switch, is there a knob?
    You mean the knob that adjusts the snares? Yeah

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    ok. Tune the knob to as tight as you can, then tighten the head to a high sound. Do NOT tune the reso head, or put moongel on the snare, if the sound on the video is what you want. Hope this works for you. It did for me.
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    Do not tune the reso head? What?

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    Quote Originally Posted by drummer View Post
    Do not tune the reso head? What?
    Yeah, do you mean loosen the reso? I'm confused...

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    no.. Just tightly tune the batter head. If you tighten the reso head, it will just take away the result you get from tightening the snares.
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    How do I get that really tight snare sound
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    The depth of the snare pitch is more determined by the tension of the batter head. Many drummers are now into tuning the batter slightly lower than what they used to. The reso, however is to vibrate the snare wires so as to approximate the desired pitch you are looking for. If you tighten the reso to high, this has the effect of raising the reso head off from the snares thus loosing some of their value. You do not want to have either head to soft or spongy but you don't need it to be so tight as to choke the sound. Also, the quality of drum head has a lot to do in this regard. Coated head will help to choken the sound a bit as will the mil and ply constuction. Keep in mind too, metal snares will always sound brighter and with more volume than a wood snare. The video is nice but do not rely on that when making your buying decision...to many variables that most likely not fit your particular situation. In the final analysis, experimenting with your natural "Ear," time consuming as it may be, is often the best thing that any of us can do. Tuning is not the mystery so many think it is. It takes time to learn and so many of us seem not to want to spend the time to better our personal enjoyment...what a crock that is!
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    Fredr -
    You also have to remember that Chris Adler from LOG always uses a 12" snare, not 14". a 12" diameter gives you a MUCH higher range of tuning than a 14" (this is why I also always use a 12", I love that high pitch).
    Although you will never get that high of a note from your 14" snare without choking the drum, follow the suggestions the other guys here gave you to get a similar crack-y sound.
    Think about getting a 12" snare as your next drum investment if you really like Adler's sound; there's not a huge selection, but he does have his own model of Black Panther now...

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    Thanks guys.

    I'm just trying to get that really powerful sound. But you're right Peach it chokes the drum when I tune to high


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    or piccolo snares work!!
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    Peach is right, it's going to be really hard to get that sound from a 14" snare, even a 5.5 Metalworks. I would play some smaller snares to see what you think. You would probably want at least 5.5 snare though to get some of the punch you hear.

    I would also venture to guess that you'll never get that sound playing in your house, rehearsal space, etc... I would think that sound would need the snare to be mic'd. It also might be compressed and gated to get it that sound.
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    Speaking of getting snares tight, my 14" mapex maple needs to get more punch. I've tightened the snare, loosened and re-tightened the skins and it still has this rattly snare sound to it. Same amount of punch as before, the only thing I can think of is maybe dampening the head?

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    If you give us a sense of how tight each head is and the snares are that might help?
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    He has his own signature series 12X5.5 snare with Mapex. Ive also been looking for that sound. He uses a High Energy Aquarian Head. I bought one today and tightend it pretty tight. Sounds pretty good to me

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    I got a 14' inch chad smith snare (steel shell) I got the batter pretty tight. Sounds similar to that only a bit warmer
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    btw thats a great tune
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    sounds to me like it's just tuned to a high pitch and he is doing rimshots on a metal snare. my snare has that sound and that echo and I hate it.

    also since that was recorded in a studio you'll never get that exact sound without a bunch of processing, same with those kicks, I prefer a little more resonance in my kick. I like a nice deep thud with some sustain in it.

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    ive always wanted the sound of the snare in this video how to i get it to sound like that

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    I'd suggest tuning batter to a sound similar to a high pitched timbale,and maybe a step lower on snare side,and turn strainer pretty tight against snare side head.An Evans HD Coated ReverseDot,or most any other reverse dot styles coated heads can really create a sharp quick tight type of attack and you can loosen strainer rods to achieve more or less resonance from the snare side head. Wood shells are easier to get a tighter sound from,Metal shells need a little more dampening effect.
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    tune it up high and then give it a good rim shot.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffS View Post
    I'd suggest tuning batter to a sound similar to a high pitched timbale,and maybe a step lower on snare side,and turn strainer pretty tight against snare side head.
    That is exactly what I do on my 12" and it sounds great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by powerbomb91 View Post
    ive always wanted the sound of the snare in this video how to i get it to sound like that

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    I like that snare sound too. I know he was sponsored by PDP/DW, but I don't know what he used back then...
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    I'm not sure if this'll really help too much cause it would be a pain, but I'm pretty sure certain shells for drums are tighter/punchier. For instance, birch is is tighter and punchier than maple. Also, the thicker the shell the less sustain, the more volume, and I think the more ring.

    Also, some drumheads would be tighter/less resonant than others- a 2 ply head I think will sound "tighter" and maybe if it's coated also.

    Also just try tightening the snare with the knob that is usually on the side of the drum.

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