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    I've been tuning my toms so they're at even intervals. 10" and 12" tuned low and 16" a little higher to accomplish this of course. Question is... do most drummers do this or is it defeating the purpose of the 16" tom, and should be tuned a couple steps below the 12"?

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    Tuning is a totally subjective thing....Some people tune in thirds, while others tune in fifths, and everywhere in between. It comes down to whatever sounds good to you.
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    I always tune each tom to how it sounds best individually, separate from the other toms. What I end up with is intervals that are relative to the difference in size, (i.e. bigger interval between the 12 and 16 than between the 10 and 12), and this is the way I like it to sound. If you want equal intervals between your toms then it's best have sizes with equal intervals like 10 12 14.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yohin View Post
    If you want equal intervals between your toms then it's best have sizes with equal intervals like 10 12 14.
    I would agree with you on this yohin. I have 10", 12", 14", and 16" toms, so getting intervals is pretty easy - I like 4ths. Ja,es, if you are going for intervals, I would probably go with an interval between the 10" and 12", and then double the interval between the 12" and the 16". That would make it sound about right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yohin View Post
    I always tune each tom to how it sounds best individually, separate from the other toms. What I end up with is intervals that are relative to the difference in size, (i.e. bigger interval between the 12 and 16 than between the 10 and 12), and this is the way I like it to sound. If you want equal intervals between your toms then it's best have sizes with equal intervals like 10 12 14.
    +1. my 16" floor is considerably lower than if i had a 14" on the kit.
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    Im new at this but no stranger to sound and tone. I would suggest remembering that you need to understand your goal, and understand what size drums will allow you to achieve your goal. IMHO, I agree with Yohin, and Pastor Bob, in that each drum should sound in tune with itself as it was designed to do. Its the picking of the right combination or right dimension of shells that will allow you achieve what youre after. I prefer even increments allowing the difference of 2 inch diameters to dictate the relations between each drum. 8 10 12 14 16 and so on. Once you get tuning down, and tuning each drum to itself, I would suggest trying different octaves as Pastor Bob mentioned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by defcon235 View Post
    Tuning is a totally subjective thing....Some people tune in thirds, while others tune in fifths, and everywhere in between. It comes down to whatever sounds good to you.
    can someone explain me what is 1/3 1/4 1/5 etc...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riouel View Post
    can someone explain me what is 1/3 1/4 1/5 etc...
    Riouel, an interval that it 1/3 means that the drums would be 3 notes apart. 1/4 would be 4 notes, etc. If 2 singers are singing in harmony, they are commonly singing 3 notes apart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pastor_bob View Post
    Riouel, an interval that it 1/3 means that the drums would be 3 notes apart. 1/4 would be 4 notes, etc. If 2 singers are singing in harmony, they are commonly singing 3 notes apart.
    how many note have a tom ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riouel View Post
    how many note have a tom ?
    I like to find the sweet spot on my 10" tom, and then tune all the toms in 4ths by singing the first 2 word in "Here comes the bride."
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    i have 10 12 14 16 so it 1/4 of each other if i tune them all the same ?

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    gonna try the double interval between 12 and 16. thanks guys!

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    Riouel,
    Im not understanding your last question or youre not understanding what Pastor Bob is trying to explain. You need to either start with your smallest or biggest drum. For you this will be your 10 or your 16. Tune the drum where it sounds its best, we call this tuning the drum to itself. From here you will tune the next drum in line 1/3 or 1/4 from the first drum you tuned. As explained by Pastor Bob, this is either 3 notes apart or 4 notes apart. So if you start with your 16 you will tune the 14 three or four notes higher. The 12 will be tuned three or four notes higher then the 14 and so on for the 10. If you start with the 10, you will tune your 12 three or four notes lower. Make the decision to tune three OR four notes apart and keep it consistent.

    I actually use my drum dial and make all my toms about 75 or 76 and they magically tune themselves to 1/3 apart.

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    I only use two toms at the moment and so I like to have a bigger interval than a 3rd or 4th so I go with a 5th between my 12" and 14", also I use my reso head on the toms to be a minor 3rd above the batter head (or am I now confusing matters?)

    I do agree with the others, pick an interval you like between your 10" and 12" and double it for your 12" to 16".

    To Riouel, heres a couple of videos that may help explain the intervals being mentioned:

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJD_ZggLwTs"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJD_ZggLwTs[/ame]

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xsqdi5Lzl-4"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xsqdi5Lzl-4[/ame]

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    i recommend starting with 12" ...universally speaking this is a bad shape for over tones

    most metronomes have pitching notes built in

    here comes the bride works for me too

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    I only use 1 rack and 1 floor. I tune a 5th interval. I know I got it when I can play the little tympany riff at the end of Beethoven Symp#5-1st movement and it sounds like it.

    da da da dum.....da da da dum....da da da dum doom dum doom dum doom dum..............doom Dum!

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    from Rhythm magazine, Ginger Baker's system :
    ....this technique where he hits the floor tom and then works his way up and taps the snare drum with the snares off so the drums are all in tune with each other. He'll work out the tension of the snare from how the toms sound.
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    Wow - was trying to find an easy way to get my set tuned (since I havent yet since I got it a month ago and it was used so who knows if its even close) and the "here comes the bride" sounds so damn easy that maybe even I can do this myself and get it close

    +1 for the info guys - I'm diggin learnin lil tricks like that, and guessing it should be easy for me then also since I have 8,10,12,14 currently. might need a lil add-on help/advice when I add to kit with a 11 &/or 13 tom but for now - SWEET, got some tuning to do

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aardy54 View Post
    Wow - was trying to find an easy way to get my set tuned (since I havent yet since I got it a month ago and it was used so who knows if its even close) and the "here comes the bride" sounds so damn easy that maybe even I can do this myself and get it close

    +1 for the info guys - I'm diggin learnin lil tricks like that, and guessing it should be easy for me then also since I have 8,10,12,14 currently. might need a lil add-on help/advice when I add to kit with a 11 &/or 13 tom but for now - SWEET, got some tuning to do
    11" tom?
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    Quote Originally Posted by yohin View Post
    11" tom?
    I thought it off too, but saw one advert'd about 3 weeks ago - honestly cant say I recall the brand name, but wasnt anything that struck a familiar chord with me ... maybe it was just listed backward like a 14"dia x 11" deep would get flipped and listed 11" x 14", might be the case ...

    BUT the thought did come to me that since I have a 8.10.12 and 14 floor, if I added a shallow 14 hanging, how would I treat that in the interval tuning?

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