Official Last Post you will Ever See From Me

[Lezzledrummer]

This was my last night on drumchat.

And now this is my official last post.





Thank you everyone. For everything. I will miss drumchat. I learned a lot here. Drumchat was fun. It just got too fun.. and there were WAY more off topic threads than drum threads.

And then, there were too many threads about things that really dont need to be discussed in a drum forum... Abortion? Global Warming? Gay Marriages? I respect everyones opinion, but I dont think its right to be discussing in a drum forum.

And the religion discussions have gotten out of hand. I have complete respect of everyones beliefs, but I dont think it needs to be discussed in a drum forum. We should be discussing drumming. I dont mind a little bit of off topic, but too much gets out of hand.

Thanks again for everything that I've learned here.

Any questions, email me.


..Goodbye.

[drummer]

Hi Leslie,
I respectfully disagree. Every forum I've ever been involved with (whether drumming or not) discusses all types of things outside of the main topic. It's about "community" more than just drumming. It's about making friends, having fun, confiding in others sometimes for personal advice, and yes...sometimes talking about sensitive issues. While some forums ban discussion on hot topic issues, we allow it. It does sometimes dominate the topic of discussion, but not on a regular basis. One look at "new posts" will show you that all the other forums/threads are alive and active.

I believe you're upset because someone got banned and you feel they shouldn't have. Please be assured Leslie that they were not banned for their opinion; they were banned because they broke forum rules when warned not to. It is simply not allowed here and will not be tolerated, despite what faith you are or what your opinion is.

You can not "shut out" the world. Hot button topics will be discussed everywhere. It is a part of life. And as it's been said many times in here; if you don't want to talk about it, don't go into those threads. There are hundreds of other threads within Drum Chat that discuss drums all day long. We all contribute to them and we all love talking about drums. This will never change.

Speaking of change; I hope you will change your mind. I think I speak for everyone in saying we've enjoyed your presence here. You have such a great spirit. You are of course young and impressionable but I also think your smart enough to trust our friendship and especially my advice here: Whoever is influencing your decision to quit Drum Chat is misguided. Quitting Drum Chat solves nothing. Drums will still be the main topic at hand; there will always be much to be learned here; the cultivated friendships remain , and we will always respect you. That said, I request that you reconsider. If not, then I bid you farewell and I wish you a long, happy life.

[Jobby]

stuff

Tom - you really are a super-moderator. I've got bags full of respect for you. I can't speak for everyone who takes part in DrumChat; but at the very least, from me: Thankyou, not just for thoughtful and caring responses such as this, but also for maintaining the same ridiculously high standard of thought and action throughout the entire forum. This place could turn into a horrible mess, but you provide a gentle guiding hand rather than ruling with an iron fist. You rock mate.

Lezzle - I've personally never had much to do with you (different time zones and all). But I know how long you've been around and how much you mean to people here. Come back!!! And if you don't, live long and prosper.

[hellsbells58]

Well said drummer, I couldn't have put it any better myself.

HB58

[drum_chick]

I'm still here

[drum_chick]

Sorry to see you go Lez....

[funkymcstain]

while having nothing to do with anyone getting banned, i "kinda" feel the same way. i dont have as much of a problem with the "hot topics" as i do with the lack of DRUM talk. and i do think that the combination of the two is why not as many guests sign up to become active members. in my time here i have seen a few of these threads and i think that would be reason to re think a few policies. MANY people would consider discussion of abortion with under aged members as offensive as the occational bad word. not saying that cussing should be allowed, but you know what i mean.

[amputechture]

good point

I agree 100%

[TIMPANIST09]

well lezel if you already left and still okk on the page keep in mind we all miss you peace

[SparrowBeat]

Interesting, now things are the complete opposite.

[drummer]

Interesting, now things are the complete opposite.

Yea, we learned that it wasn't worth losing members just because of religious differences and other hot topics. This was around the time it was changed. We lost some religious folks during that time but the forum is better now. Those topics are interesting to discuss but they can be very divisive.

[EddieV]

I hadn't realized that the original post was from that long ago.

At first I was stunned - and was about tap out a reply!

(it was a good reply too............................................... ...no swearing I promise!)


Oh well...never mind!

[Kazaamski]

I think at drummerworld, there's a few salty members, still convinced that this a christian leaning drumming site, and that Pastor Bob is the one and only moderator.

[markthechuck]

i was reading this thinking has something changed around here....then i saw the date.

cheers

[pastor_bob]

I think at drummerworld, there's a few salty members, still convinced that this a christian leaning drumming site, and that Pastor Bob is the one and only moderator.

Yep, and I actually offered to step down from moderating because of that perception. In the end, though, I have defended the move to end religious topics here, simply because there are plenty of places for those discussions, and because this is a drum forum.

[cc1918]

Well said drummer, I couldn't have put it any better myself.

HB58

Agreed

[drummer]

Fascinated by the perception of this forum but also pleased by it. Because 'respect' and 'decency' is often attributed to Christians, it makes sense that people would think that this is a Christian forum. Personally, I'm very proud of that even though I'm not a Christian, and I think Drum Bum feels the same way. That said, I had a hand in the decision making regarding Pastor Bob and I've got to tell you, never before have I witnessed someone so passionate about their belief, yet so restrained and willing to abide by the request of the owners to no longer discuss religion in here. Being a former Christian, I can't imagine how tempting it must be to want to inject doctrine where and when it's deemed fitting but PB is very disciplined and I so respect that about him. Bottom line, and like PB mentioned, this is a drum forum first and foremost and there are plenty of other places to discuss religion, politics, and other sensitive subjects.

[markthechuck]

^^^^well said^^^^^^^

[N2Bluz]

Things like religion and politics are by nature passionate topics. Any reasonable person should expect to be offended at some point by the comments or views of others but respecting the views of others should be expected of everyone....regardless of religion, race, gender, political affiliation, etc.. I've had some of the best, thoughtful, intelligent and respectful conversations on Internet forums.... about extremely "touchy" issues with people who have a 180* view from mine. I'm pretty conservative, and a Christian (no big surprise there), but I like the fact that such topics are avoided on here. It allows people to interact based on merits, without pre-conceived perceptions of others based on stereotypes.

[kay-gee]

The funny thing to me is that even the "Christian" sites are quick to ban you when you discuss religion!

all the best...

[EyePea]

[drummer]

The funny thing to me is that even the "Christian" sites are quick to ban you when you discuss religion!

They are? I didn't know that.

[drummer]

I've always loved that quote EyePea!

[N2Bluz]

I'm just glad there isn't a "drum skills entrance exam" to be member of this forum, LOL.

[N2Bluz]

The funny thing to me is that even the "Christian" sites are quick to ban you when you discuss religion!

all the best...

I suppose it kinda depends on the religious view your trying to discuss!