I would go for a second crash.
I would go for a second crash.
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I mean really, what else is there to get at that level?
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Yeah....I used to have at least 4 (and even more crashes) set up...but..as I got into effects cymbals (and gigging more), you realise you need variations in the types of sounds to compliment the music you play. And a couple of large splashes I have are almost mini crash-like anyway, so why put up more multiclamps and tripods. But...we're all different, and everyone's views in DC is as valid as the next guy....it's up to the individual to heed the free advice of all our DrumChat Brethren. Cheers!
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i would say, get a splash or china cymbal because its different and
Takes more creativity to play in a /fill/solo/rhythm and, incorporate the
Right creativeness without anything clashing (most of the time leaving something out is better than putting loads in but it also depends what IT is),
Much like buddy rich did
if you do get a china cymbal, learn to hit them correctly or you can split them
skip this if you wish:
Also i don’t believe ion 'the more the merrier' because, if you have 200 drums you aren’t
Limited to play something creative, but true creativity requires a challenge, something you
are limited to that you can use your brain to, to be creative, if you have a small drum kit, its more challenging, which is a good thing
And takes more brain power and ideas to make something creative, and then you may add another drum or cymbal
And do it all again, also the 4 or 5 piece drum kit is what might be considered to be 'the perfect kit' since how
Before drums were not in a kit setup, they were separate and took more than 1 player to create a rhythm using 2 or more
Drums/cymbals, in drumkit size, 'less is more' and 'more may be less' depending on how you create something, also if you have
a huge hit and you’re doing a solo it’s a good thing to use all the kit but use it wisely don’t go bananas because that isn’t creativity
And non creativity isn't music in my mind.
Last edited by kris finney; 11-29-2010 at 06:46 AM.
Hey bro, +7 on the second crash. Try go for an 18 inch to get a good variation in your sound. xs's are quite warm if i remember correctly, maybe go for something like a Zildjian K series, or a custom. if you have the cash maybe a meinl byzance. let us know what you are thinking of getting
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Yeah, an 18' thin crash would be good. Another option would be an 18' crashride (for a bit of variety) but it is really up to you..
Thanks everyone. I am definitely on board with a 2nd crash but I want to find a place where I can here the differences between brands, construction, and size. I'll see what's left in the budget after Christmas and taxes...
Thanks again for the thoughtful replies.
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Why not grab an AAXplosion? Or, why even stixk with sabian... Explore bro. 2002, Alphas, A, K customs, Dream cymbals, AA, HH(X), etc. The possibilities are endless; Go crazy.
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I do appriciate your opinions on this and I even agree to a point.
However, I dont want to limit myself in order to learn how to be creative with a limited amount of drums or cymbals.
I myself have 3 crashes 1 china and am working on 2 splashes (+ 1 ride and hats of course). If I wanted to take a hour to setup or tear down I would add a couple of Zil Bells and a second china too, but not likely. Well maybe 1 bell...lol.
You either have the grove in you and can learn on a small kit or large kit, or you dont.
Basically all I,m saying is play what makes you happy.
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I started out my quest to expand my kit with on goal in mind.....enhance the music. My very first band was an 11 piece stage band which included a 4 piece horn section. I was 20 years old at the time and I had no money. I bought a used 4pc kit that had one crash, one ride, one china, and pair of hats. As the band and my skills progressed, I needed to add different "voices" to accompany a 4 hour set of music. That's when I found the need to expand and add on. As the years added up, so did the gear. As my playing level increased, so did the money made from gigs which allowed me to buy better gear. It's a natural progression we all face a one point in our endeavour to become progressive drummers; expand, swap brand "A" for brand "X", trade and sell. It's too much fun to be had!
Last edited by late8; 12-01-2010 at 05:16 PM.
i do use big and small drum-kit setups since they are easy to add and take off noways but if you can be creative with bigger kits that's fine
terry bozzio is dreadful
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i dont know what chops are
thing is, he sounds terrible and his concept just dosent work, i use melodic tuning sometimes ,its simole you have a key signiture then you tune the drums to the root, 3rd and 5th degrees of the key.you dont need 3 octaves of the note range , it dosent metter how many drums you have, to be good you have to come up with something new and creative while keeeping tempo and dynamics in those rythms ,he has terrible rythm and creativity
if you put a beginner behind a huge drumkit he will still have the same skilll level.having more room to move your drumsticks and arms and more things to hit is a negitive thing , unless you know how to apply your creativity to them , this incluses knowing what to leave out and out in.
Preferring large vs. small kits, and deciding on the merits of any given drummer are going to be ongoing discussions. There are going to be strong opinions on both sides of the aisle. Everyone is welcome to express their own opinions, but let's be clear that this is exactly what they are - opinions, and like armpits, everyone's got 'em.
Personally, I like a bigger kit, but then that is because I am not gigging. I just have to move my kit to the church and back, so moving a bigger kit really isn't an issue. Also, since I am not an accomplished drummer . . . yet . . . I like having different sounds with which to experiment. I have not desire to play a Bozzio sized kit, because I would even know where to start, but I do know that there is something to be said for both larger kits, and smaller kits. So I would say enjoy learning how to play on both, and then you will be playing what is appropriate to the music, the band, or the style. And as has been said by those more accomplished than myself . . . the more versitile you are, the more gigs you will get.
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