getting rolls down.....

[luckypunk]

Ok so ive learned the bounce technique and can do it with both hands but now trying to get a steady roll going my brain just poops out as soon as i hit the first stick. it like i completely forget howto move my left hand to also bounce on the pad following my right. is this normal? i keep trying to get both hands to move one after the other but it seems near impossible

[MartyM]

luckypunk, back to basics here...RRLLRRLL..etc start slow and speed it up when comfortable..it takes a long time my friend..I sometimes find myself with sloppy rolls
til I get warmed up..and don't worry we ALL go thru this.

[Aaaidn]

I think I know what you mean, I Suffer from the same problem :( I can double stroke well with both arms but in application in a double stroke roll I loose it completely. I think its down to confidence, are you right handed?

[luckypunk]

yah im right handed.

[Aaaidn]

Yeah then, I think we both suffer from the same problem. It is all down to confidence in the hand you do not use as much. I think, with anything start slowly and build up, at the moment I'm doing it very slowly, irritatingly slowly. And I'll build up slowly until my left hand doesn't give up.

Slow and steady, but pace yourself and build confidence, thats the way.

Do triplets LRL LRL those are good for left hand confidence.

[Pearl MCX Man]

I agree with you all.

[Aaaidn]

See, I'm new and I'm being agreed with

[ratmycue]

S L O W IT D O W N.


Are you practising on a pad or snare?
If its a snare, take the throw off and listen to the hits, slow slow build slow, its muscley muscle memory bud. Also concentrate on the placement of your hits, try drawing a small area on the skin and keep ya hits within that area as ya build speed slowly. There aint no rushing this stuff.
good luck bud.

[pastor_bob]

S L O W IT D O W N.


Are you practising on a pad or snare?
If its a snare, take the throw off and listen to the hits, slow slow build slow, its muscley muscle memory bud. Also concentrate on the placement of your hits, try drawing a small area on the skin and keep ya hits within that area as ya build speed slowly. There aint no rushing this stuff.
good luck bud.

Yep, it's almost mantra for drummers. Whenever I start to get frustrated with something, I remember the mantra - s l o w i t d o w n.

[ratmycue]

Yep, it's almost mantra for drummers. Whenever I start to get frustrated with something, I remember the mantra - s l o w i t d o w n.

Very true PB, Its also very important to look and listen closely to your techinque, If you pay attention you can see when sloppy starts to happen, when it does just back off a bit and reset. Its a slow progression but so so worth it.

[late8]

very true pb, its also very important to look and listen closely to your techinque, if you pay attention you can see when sloppy starts to happen, when it does just back off a bit and reset. Its a slow progression but so so worth it.

+1

[Kazaamski]

I practice rolls on a pillow. You are forced to play the rolls, instead of bouncing them. It helps develop the muscles involved with the action. And yeah, start slow, and then speed up. Then you can move to a pad, and ultimately the drums. I will say, double strokes around the whole drumset can be kinda weird, cause each drum will probably feel/bounce differently than the last. Just takes a bit of patience.

[jordison515]

Ok so ive learned the bounce technique and can do it with both hands but now trying to get a steady roll going my brain just poops out as soon as i hit the first stick. it like i completely forget howto move my left hand to also bounce on the pad following my right. is this normal? i keep trying to get both hands to move one after the other but it seems near impossible

Dude, i practice my rudiments and rolls like i'm a friggin' zombie... Just zone out and just let your hands do the work.

[Riverr1]

Dude,... Just zone out and just let your hands do the work.

Fine advice from everyone so far, but Jordison515 has brought up something that's often forgotten. Alot of young drummers, or musicians, often over think what they are doing. Thinking can get in the way of doing. Zoning out can work, or if you want to think it through, don't think about how your chops sounded yesterday, think about how you want to sound tomorrow. Be postive and play with confidence. It's an attitude that can and will carry you a long way.

[Kazaamski]

Fine advice from everyone so far, but Jordison515 has brought up something that's often forgotten. Alot of young drummers, or musicians, often over think what they are doing. Thinking can get in the way of doing. Zoning out can work, or if you want to think it through, don't think about how your chops sounded yesterday, think about how you want to sound tomorrow. Be postive and play with confidence. It's an attitude that can and will carry you a long way.

This, is my biggest problem. I can't get over all the wrong notes I play. I get frustrated. Truly, I am my worst enemy.

[Riverr1]

This, is my biggest problem. I can't get over all the wrong notes I play. I get frustrated. Truly, I am my worst enemy.

No worries for you here. Just don't let this effect in any way except to motivate you. Coming to realize that you can be your own worst enemy is one of the first learning hurdles almost every drummer has to overcome so you have a lot of company with this one. A good tool for this is the use of a mirror. It's not a vanity thing. They're used by a lot of drummers along with boxers, dancers and many others also. Bellson, Bonham and Gavin Harrison to name a few use or used them. Drummers talk a lot about muscle memory and to a lesser extent auditory memory, but visual memory is another tool to use. It can help with controlling tension, stress, stick control by watching consistency in stick height, patterns of fluid motions which is often the problem with playing the wrong notes.

Of course nothing is beats a good teacher, but I understand that's not always possible. Again though, if you understand yourself and your drumming as you do, you've overcome alot. Really it is encouraging to here you say this about yourself. It will serve you better then many of the traps some fall into like, "if I only had this or that the problems would be solved." An excuse to avoid looking inside for solutions.

[Drumbledore]

A good tool for this is the use of a mirror. It's not a vanity thing. They're used by a lot of drummers along with boxers, dancers and many others also. Bellson, Bonham and Gavin Harrison to name a few use or used them. Drummers talk a lot about muscle memory and to a lesser extent auditory memory, but visual memory is another tool to use. It can help with controlling tension, stress, stick control by watching consistency in stick height, patterns of fluid motions which is often the problem with playing the wrong notes.

Yep, I have a old spare full length mirror that I use to not only check stick heights but also set to the side of the kit, I use to check my posture every now and then. Plus I encourage students to do this too. Definitely not a vanity thing.

[ratmycue]

. Definitely not a vanity thing.

Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure lol

[Kazaamski]

I have pretty much stopped playing altogether because of my frustration actually. That, and I am way too tired after work to do anything.

[Riverr1]

I have pretty much stopped playing altogether because of my frustration actually. That, and I am way too tired after work to do anything.

Wow, sorry to read this.

[LL70]

Ok so ive learned the bounce technique and can do it with both hands but now trying to get a steady roll going my brain just poops out as soon as i hit the first stick. it like i completely forget howto move my left hand to also bounce on the pad following my right. is this normal? i keep trying to get both hands to move one after the other but it seems near impossible

Rudiments help so much. Slowing it down and then speeding it up has helped me too.

I have pretty much stopped playing altogether because of my frustration actually. That, and I am way too tired after work to do anything.

Kaz, everyone has those days. Sometimes when you are tired the best thing to do is to take a break. Hope this is temporary for you. Don't let it stop you! I've been feeling a bit down lately too (too much on my mind) and haven't played much either but I try to think about how far I've come along and it helps me when I get those down days. And it's o.k. because I tell myself I may take a break but I'm not quitting.

[Kazaamski]

I haven't quit. I just have stopped. Drums were such a part of my life at one point, that for now, it's enough just to have them setup in the room. Even if I don't touch them. It satisfies me.