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    Whats are the most commonly used rudiments in Rock or Metal genres? This can include paradiddles ect.

    I'm getting ready to start on some rudiments. I figure on starting out with some simple ones but was curious about the ones most commonly used.

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    Most used are single stroke rolls, double stroke rolls, versions of paradiddles, flams, flam taps, and drags. There might be one or two others that I've left out both these are among the most common.

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    ruffs are fairly common

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    ruff?
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    Quote Originally Posted by drummer View Post
    Most used are single stroke rolls, double stroke rolls, versions of paradiddles, flams, flam taps, and drags. There might be one or two others that I've left out both these are among the most common.
    Agreed.

    Work on making your doubles and paradiddles sound as even as your singles with both hands and feet. Make sure you understand how many notes you can fit in any given beat. As long as you can change sticking to accommodate what drum you want to go for, you should be fine.

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    At least for the music I play, single/double stroke rolls, paradiddles, and flams are essential. Now there are many variations that build off of these, but understanding how to play them can really help your playing. Especially when doing hi hat work, double strokes are a must.
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    Understand also the five, six and seven stroke rolls, as well as the others mentioned. Slowed down as eighth note doubles with a single stroke at the end, for instance, can give you some cool tribal patterns....I do this quite a bit with the seven stroke roll especially, right hand doing a double on the floor tom, left hand doing a double on a rack tom, another right hand floor tom double, then a single left hand on the snare on 'four'. Put a quarter note kick underneath all your doubles and last single, and see what effect you get.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chafey View Post
    ruff?
    Ruff is the same as a Drag. Or better yet, if you diddle the grace note of a flam.

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    So what is suggested for starters? Single and double stroke rolls? I am already doing flams, and probably more I'm not realising I'm doing.

    I'll have to explore the rudiments page and see what they sound like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jafo View Post
    So what is suggested for starters? Single and double stroke rolls? I am already doing flams, and probably more I'm not realising I'm doing.

    I'll have to explore the rudiments page and see what they sound like.
    If you can't already - getting even (volume and length) double strokes should be next on your list.

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    I hear you guys. Thanks for the input.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SnareTan View Post
    Ruff is the same as a Drag. Or better yet, if you diddle the grace note of a flam.

    Tan
    I don't know where this came from, but I've seen it a few times recently....er.. and it's wrong. I'm guessing it came from some website and everyone's picked it up.

    Traditionally a drag is two or more bounced notes followed by a single stroke, (rrL or llR.) A Ruff is two or more notes played hand to hand followed by a single stroke. (lrlR rlrL

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    I'd say singles and doubles mostly because most metal drummers don't take lessons or learn from anybody in particular. While there's always some unintentional flams, etc, i do agree with ruffs. For example, Meshuggah's "Bleed" bass drum pattern is a ruff.

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