This is a great method by Bob Gatzen. Check it out.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ga8Q12mKYxI"]YouTube - Bob Gatzen - Bass Drum Tuning[/ame]
I just switched over from an Evans Emad batter and Evan eq3 reso on my bass drum to a Coated Emperor batter and ebony ambassador reso and i'm having alot of trouble getting a good sound out of my bass. Ive been trying to go for a really boomy sound with alot of projection like bonham had, but i keep getting this really empty click with alot of overtones. I put a pillow in it and it helped a little bit, but it still is no where near a sound I like. Does anyone have any advice on how I should tune this to get a good sound?
The drums!
Tama Starclassic Birch 5 piece
14x6.5 Brass Pork Pie big black snare
12",14" DDrum Deccabons
Batter- Aquarian Response 2 coated
Reso- Aquarian Classic Coated
The Cymbals!
17" Paiste 2002 Wild Crash
19" Paiste 2002 Power Crash
20" Paiste 2002 Crash
20" Paiste 2002 Ride
14" Paiste 2002 Sound Edge Hi hats
10" Wuhan Splash
16" Wuhan China
This is a great method by Bob Gatzen. Check it out.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ga8Q12mKYxI"]YouTube - Bob Gatzen - Bass Drum Tuning[/ame]
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empty click sound might be you have too much tension on your batter head, and make sure it is in sync, and resonating with your reso head. for a start, tune the two heads to the same note (pitch) at the fundamental note or 'sweet spot' for your kick drum. the coated batter works but you way want to put a 5 inch wide felt strip on either of those two heads, for a slight muffling. different folks have views on putting any stuffing in the drum. I go without but if you want to cut out lots of resonance, try laying a folded towel in the base (or previous posts Gatzen video). Many tips on the John Bonham bass drum sounds can be seen on u-tubes by Jeff Ocheltree...as fro the 'boom'.... don't forget he had a 26 inch kick !
Also check your technique. if your a player that bury the beater in the head you wont be able to get that huge open boomy sound
you need to get the beater off the head ASAP to let it resonate
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Really cant help much as I use Emad for reso and beater and tune them just up from w rinkle and get lots of comments on how good it sounds
John Bohnam had a 14 x 26 bass drum so it was big and thin.
Bonham played Remo drum heads throughout his career. For his wood drums, he always used Remo Coated Emperors (or Ludwig equivalent) on his batter sides, while using coated ambassadors on the resonant side of his toms, and a Diplomat or clear Ambassador on the resonant side of his snare drum. The bass drums front head was always a medium weight head, for instance a Remo Coated Ambassador. The batter head was always tuned medium-tight, (almost jazz-like) and the resonant head was always tuned way up, for a full, round sound. He never put anything inside his bass drum (although his band members have said that he would sometimes fill it with crumpled tin foil, so that it would project). He only used a felt strip on the batter side occasionally. The bass drum heads were also tuned a lot higher than one would think. Some have claimed he used to make "Ritchie Rings" cut out of old drum heads for his front bass drum head, but this anomaly is simply the surrounding light producing a shadow from the hoop on the white drum head producing the ring effect (you can produce the same effect with a front bass drum head, as long as the head is coated). Hope this helps or gives you an idea of how to get that big boom sound of Bonham.
Last edited by Pearl MCX Man; 04-10-2011 at 08:19 AM.
Yep thats why I use Ludwig Med head on snare, oh its a supraphonic
Downtime your batter and tune your reso up high. It'll be nice and low and it'll also be boomy because of the reso. Tuning your reso low is what gives that clicky sound.
So itchie, how did the kick sound?
Get counted! http://www.drumchat.com/showthread.p...ers-12079.htmlOriginally Posted by itchie
Check it.
http://www.reverbnation.com/allihave
thanks for all of the responses! Im going to take the pillow out and mess with the tuning a lil more and see what i can come up with
The drums!
Tama Starclassic Birch 5 piece
14x6.5 Brass Pork Pie big black snare
12",14" DDrum Deccabons
Batter- Aquarian Response 2 coated
Reso- Aquarian Classic Coated
The Cymbals!
17" Paiste 2002 Wild Crash
19" Paiste 2002 Power Crash
20" Paiste 2002 Crash
20" Paiste 2002 Ride
14" Paiste 2002 Sound Edge Hi hats
10" Wuhan Splash
16" Wuhan China
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mciP59WSnNw"]YouTube - The Jason Bonham Band - Wait For You[/ame]
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJotq5YdoBI"]YouTube - Jason Bonham - Drum Lesson[/ame]
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlUblCvGDVE&feature=related"]YouTube - Jason Bonham's Led Zeppelin Experience! Drum Solo[/ame]
Jason doesn't do it for me.
One method I saw produced one of the best sounding kicks I've heard. It was a pearl vision 18x22(depth x diameter) if you can believe it. He had an Evans emad with no internal muffling tuned fairly low with no kick pad and had a Remo ebony powerstroke 3 on the reso side which was tuned very high. It was thunderous. It had booming sustain. When my wood beaters finally come in I'm probably going to buy a new head and give that a shot at least for live applications. Oh, also it had a port hole, smaller sized one.
The only two constants I have are DW and Zildjian.
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