Snare Help

[topdog63]

So I'm having a little issue with tuning my new snare. Its a Ludwig maple 14x3 1/2. I have an Aquarian hi velocity batter and an aquarian hi performance reso. It rings like crazy. I like my batter head tight and to get good pop but it rings like crazy. Any tuning ideas to get rid of the over tones.

[jordison515]

So I'm having a little issue with tuning my new snare. Its a Ludwig maple 14x3 1/2. I have an Aquarian hi velocity batter and an aquarian hi performance reso. It rings like crazy. I like my batter head tight and to get good pop but it rings like crazy. Any tuning ideas to get rid of the over tones.

Tune the batter down a bit, and the reso up until you get the sound you want.

You could also invest in moongels, which is what i would suggest if you're not fond of the sound you get by tuning it like i suggested.

[coddude321]

Tune the batter down a bit, and the reso up until you get the sound you want.

You could also invest in moongels, which is what i would suggest if you're not fond of the sound you get by tuning it like i suggested.

+1 on moongels.
I would also try tuning first like jordison said, but moongels are about 8 bucks for 4 at Guitar Center (I've gotten them for 4 or 5 bucks on a good day ).

[pastor_bob]

TD, how is the reso tuned relative to the batter now, and are you positive both the reso and batter are in tune with themselves?

[topdog63]

Cool thanks guys. Im gonna play with the tuning a little later when I get a chance.

[Russ]

Something smells wrong here, a piccolo should never ring, that drum isn't nearly deep enough to have that problem. You may want to check out the strainer as well as re-tune the top and bottom heads until they are closer. Thin heads like snare side need to be brought up a bit higher than a heavier gauge. You shouldn't be encountering too much ring if the heads are at a similar pitch, unless one of the heads is in bad condition and needs replacing. It's a good head combination, once you do some adjustments I think you'll be quite happy.

[late8]

In my opinion, if you want the pop and no ring without resorting to damping for your snare, try the Evans HD Dry batter head.

Here's a discription:

"This durable two-ply head (7.5mil external, 5mil internal) with 2mil overtone control ring barks live, yet is ideal for the studio. Additional dry vents eliminate stray harmonics"

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[trickg]

I'm not a fan of using any two-ply head as a batter on a snare. I'll take a single ply coated head any day - that along with a properly positioned piece of moon gel gives me the sound and action I want from a snare drum.

[marko138]

In my opinion, if you want the pop and no ring without resorting to damping for your snare, try the Evans HD Dry batter head.

Here's a discription:

"This durable two-ply head (7.5mil external, 5mil internal) with 2mil overtone control ring barks live, yet is ideal for the studio. Additional dry vents eliminate stray harmonics"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lv62P...eature=related

I use the ST dry and love it.

[VIbes]

That Evans Dry Batter head is good. I use one on my Catalina Jazz snare.
try tuneing your reso head up. I have found I didn't have mine tight enough when it was ringing. Don't go overboard though. Just tweak it a little at a time. Or start all over. Loosen the batter. Tighten up the reso really good then raise your batter a little at a time and see what happens.

[Dad3353]

Taste is personal, of course, but I switched to Genera Dry a few tears ago, and found the 'perfect' snare sound and feel very much easier to obtain than with my years with Ambassador. Try a Genera and see if it works for you..?
(and for my part I would expect a piccolo to 'ring' more than a 7" deep...)

[Northern Redneck]

Do yourself a favour, walk about 10-15 feet in front of your kit and have somebody who knows how to hit a drum play your snare.

[LL70]

Do yourself a favour, walk about 10-15 feet in front of your kit and have somebody who knows how to hit a drum play your snare.

Sometimes I stand in front of the drums and hit them that way just to get an idea of what they sound like from the front. Sometimes I ask my son to play so I can hear what they sound like.

[rabidpenguin45]

Do yourself a favour, walk about 10-15 feet in front of your kit and have somebody who knows how to hit a drum play your snare.

Very good advice. Extra "ring" on your snare is not really a problem unless you are in the studio. Otherwise, you will have a dead sounding drum to anyone not standing behind your kit. I also notice this with toms. Behind the kit, they sound low and thunderous, but out front they sound like wet cardboard being hit with a wooden spoon.

[Dagon2000]

I have the same batter as you with a Hazy res. The ring was a bit of a problem for me early on when using it. You're gonna need to break the head in some but in the meantime, get some moongels. The one thing I really like about the Hi-V batter head is that it takes very well to Moongel. I'll use anywhere from 0-3 moongels on my snare and each time I add one the sound changes a bit. It allows me to use one snare for many different music genres.

[marko138]

Very good advice. Extra "ring" on your snare is not really a problem unless you are in the studio. Otherwise, you will have a dead sounding drum to anyone not standing behind your kit. I also notice this with toms. Behind the kit, they sound low and thunderous, but out front they sound like wet cardboard being hit with a wooden spoon.

Definitely!