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    Hello all!

    I'm sitting down on the set today and wanted to try the toe technique on the bass drum. I have only one pedal, 2 models, an older Speed King and a newer Ludwig that came with my set. I have a few questions, for example;

    - on most videos I see the bass pedal returning or bouncing off very fast, so I imagine I'd have to keep spring tension tight or tighter than usual?

    - Should I tighten the bass drum head too? I set it to the lowest possible sound by pressing slightly in the middle and tightening skin up until the wrinkling dissapears.

    - Change my sitting position to a higher position so I dont tend to put my heel down and barely reach the pedal with the front part of my foot?

    Thanks for any replies!

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    for everything I know (which isn't much) no matter what technique you use, your thighs and shins should form a 90 degree angle.

    Many different opinions, however, and I'm sure someone else may do something different.

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    If you're aiming for speed, most of the time I hear that the best way is to keep your bass drum head tight, and your pedal springs pretty loose. The tight head will bounce the beater back for you, so you don't need a very tight spring setting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by steveplaysyamaha View Post
    for everything I know (which isn't much) no matter what technique you use, your thighs and shins should form a 90 degree angle.

    Many different opinions, however, and I'm sure someone else may do something different.
    OK thanks I already do that so I'm OK!

    Quote Originally Posted by Digital View Post
    If you're aiming for speed, most of the time I hear that the best way is to keep your bass drum head tight, and your pedal springs pretty loose. The tight head will bounce the beater back for you, so you don't need a very tight spring setting.

    Wow OK I thought otherwise, I'll try it! Thanks!

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    Well, as a tighter head and a loose spring is part of the equation. Don't forget about the little weight that attaches to your beater shaft, if it came with one. As well as the angle of your beater at the resting position. I know for myself that the tighter the head is, the faster the rebound. Sometimes uncontrollably and produces double hits where I don't want them. Same goes with a loose spring, a loss of control. Many different variables. The weight on the shaft makes a big difference on rebound depending on where it's located. Good luck.
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    On the Speed King loosen the springs by turning those 2 big, flat-head adjustment screws on the bottom/underneath of each post, if you can. If it's really old you may have to use some degreaser/gasoline to loosen the waxy grease inside and clean that out before regreasing... Use the heavier felt beater, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wolvie56 View Post
    Well, as a tighter head and a loose spring is part of the equation. Don't forget about the little weight that attaches to your beater shaft, if it came with one. As well as the angle of your beater at the resting position. I know for myself that the tighter the head is, the faster the rebound. Sometimes uncontrollably and produces double hits where I don't want them. Same goes with a loose spring, a loss of control. Many different variables. The weight on the shaft makes a big difference on rebound depending on where it's located. Good luck.
    Thank you for the suggestion!

    Quote Originally Posted by slinglander View Post
    On the Speed King loosen the springs by turning those 2 big, flat-head adjustment screws on the bottom/underneath of each post, if you can. If it's really old you may have to use some degreaser/gasoline to loosen the waxy grease inside and clean that out before regreasing... Use the heavier felt beater, too.
    Yeah but, I'm ashamed to admit I'm scared to touch that pedal !!! I'll try it on the newer pedal, thanks for your suggestion!

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