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    Last week was asked if I played drums from a guy on my soft ball team . long story short he was in a band and still jams with his old band mates but no drummer , and i was asked if i would like to come over next time they come to town . I said sounds like fun what do you guys play so we are on the same page I said ok just get me a list so I can take a look at it . the next week I find out now this first jam they want to play at bar so now its a gig oh um ok still dont have a set list but not to worry nothing to bad you shouldnt have a problem . Then I get the set list of 34 songs of witch I have only played 1 witch leaves me 2 1/2 weeks to learn 33 songs .

    Johnny B. Goode

    Doctor Doctor

    Some Kind of Wonderful

    Talk Dirty To Me

    I Want You to Want Me

    Cocaine

    I Saw Her Standing There (Beatles)

    Under The Boardwalk

    Wonderful Tonight

    Last Kiss

    Pretty Woman

    My Best Friend's Girl

    Hippy Hippy Shake

    Brown Eyed Girl

    Mustang Sally

    She F###ing Hates Me

    You May Be Right

    Sweet Home Alabama

    Gimme 3 Steps

    Melt With You

    Summer of 69

    Shook Me All Night Long

    Hanky Panky

    Good Lovin

    Tube Snake Boogie

    Keep Your Hands To Yourself

    Little Sister

    Blue Suede Shoes

    Jailhouse Rock

    Crocodile Rock

    Proud Mary

    Bad Moon Rising

    500 Miles

    Every Rose Has It's Thorn

    Yea I can play the core beats in these songs however , I worry that it will be just that with the time I got and will sound boring . I dont want to bail on him but I dont want to hold the rest of the band back .
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    I'll do the gig.....

    Where is it?

    How Much?

    What time?
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    LOL . sounds like its play for drinks kind of thing .
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    Quote Originally Posted by stump knocker View Post
    LOL . sounds like its play for drinks kind of thing .
    Forget about it!

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    You are not gonna be holding the rest of the band back. Just go out there do your thing, and fill every 16 or 32 bars. They will let you know if there's a part with no drums :D
    Those songs are mostly straight ahead rock songs. I would say just tell them to start playing, and then fall in as the song gets started. A jam session at a bar is not opening for the stones at Madison Square Gardens. Just go have fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazaamski View Post
    You are not gonna be holding the rest of the band back. Just go out there do your thing, and fill every 16 or 32 bars. They will let you know if there's a part with no drums :D
    Those songs are mostly straight ahead rock songs. I would say just tell them to start playing, and then fall in as the song gets started. A jam session at a bar is not opening for the stones at Madison Square Gardens. Just go have fun.
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    you can do it

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    as I see it about 14-15 of those songs are old school....hey I resemble that remark! and listen to them about 2-3 times each and Wa-La..no problem, easy peasy lemon squeezy! good luck and just have a ball.
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    Just shoot from the hip.
    Ready, fire, aim.

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    Looks like stock 4/4 rock drumming. Just make sure the snare hits on the 2's and 4's, simple fill going into the choruses and you should be OK.
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    A lot of the songs on your list is written in my DNA because I'm an old man and I've played them a hundred times but that doesn't help you much since you're the one on the hook. My suggestion is to grab a pair of headphones and jam to as many songs as possible. Since you don't have much time, I would group the songs together that have the same tempo, groove or feel and practice those together until you hear what's common among them, then move on to the next grouping. I've added a line below each example group which discribes to me what's most noteable about each style.

    Example #1- The Elvis Group

    common groove on the backbeat

    Johnny B. Goode
    Jailhouse Rock
    Blue Suede Shoes


    Example #2- The Creedence Group
    fills in between verse lines, ride wash a crash

    Proud Mary
    Bad Moon Rising


    Example #3- '60's Billboard Top 40
    lots of dynamic changes between verse and chorus

    Mustang Sally
    Pretty Woman (Roy Orbison)
    Li'l Sister


    Example #4- Southern Rock
    lots of flams accents between snare and crash

    Sweet Home Alabama
    Gimme 3 Steps


    In my opinion, the 10 songs in the example groups have a common groove or style with each other. Try to mimic the key drum phrasing that stand out with each group and thread that 'feel' throughout each song. It doesn't have to be note for note, just work on the 'feel' and the rest of it will fall into place.

    Good luck, relax and have fun. Remember you have one HUGE advantage over these guys, you're the drummer they lack, making you in my opinion, 'the cute blonde on the beach' and you can pretty much call the 'shots'. Play with confidence and don't make any weird faces if you screw-up. The bar patrons will never know the difference anyway.

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    Big thanks for the help . The puls side is I Know all these songs and have them on cd's and I have the LP's for some . I just have never palyed any of them not sure why . It's funny to think back in '08 one of my first post was somthing to do with being new to drumming and my first kit , and now I put up a post about a gigg just a bit off topic but random tought . I will have to let everyone know how it goes . But agin thanks .
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    With songs like that I'd actually be more concerned with the arrangements than the drum parts. Have to know when the starts and stops are, and when it gets louder or quieter. I'd suggest just listening to them all in a playlist OVER and OVER again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stump knocker View Post
    Big thanks for the help . The puls side is I Know all these songs and have them on cd's and I have the LP's for some . I just have never palyed any of them not sure why . It's funny to think back in '08 one of my first post was somthing to do with being new to drumming and my first kit , and now I put up a post about a gigg just a bit off topic but random tought . I will have to let everyone know how it goes . But agin thanks .
    You're progressing fast in a short amount of time. By your response, you'll be just fine. It's good to know you've heard all of these tunes before; that's half the battle. Keep this thread alive and comeback and let us know how it went....because we care!

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    Quote Originally Posted by stump knocker View Post
    Big thanks for the help . The puls side is I Know all these songs and have them on cd's and I have the LP's for some . I just have never palyed any of them not sure why . It's funny to think back in '08 one of my first post was somthing to do with being new to drumming and my first kit , and now I put up a post about a gigg just a bit off topic but random tought . I will have to let everyone know how it goes . But agin thanks .
    Don't sweat it. Aviator's suggestion is excellent (and I've done that with hand drums), but realize that not every band will play every song exactly as it's recorded...you get the basics down and soon you'll learn that "I drum does not mean I know every song--BUT I learn fast!"

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    What they all said..

    having never played drums in front of anyone .. ok never in front of an audience my thought on what I might do in this kind of a situation is pretty much what everyone here has said with one addition .. I might make myself a set of notes .. IE .. "song name basick 4/4 stop in the middle of the third vs 4th vs on the ride" .. just listening to the songs close enough to make the notes is what Im actually aiming for.. i might never look at them again but making them helps to lock it into my mind.
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    Almost every tune on that list (with a few exceptions) is simple blues pattern. Eight and twelve bar. Should be able to play those with one hand tied behind back. mostly just listen to the singing for dynamics and stops etc...

    all the best...

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    most of those songs have a hook and there dam simple stuff ..(quarter notes on the kick during hipy hipy shake) ...how easy

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    Quote Originally Posted by stump knocker View Post
    Last week was asked if I played drums from a guy on my soft ball team . long story short he was in a band and still jams with his old band mates but no drummer , and i was asked if i would like to come over next time they come to town . I said sounds like fun what do you guys play so we are on the same page I said ok just get me a list so I can take a look at it . the next week I find out now this first jam they want to play at bar so now its a gig oh um ok still dont have a set list but not to worry nothing to bad you shouldnt have a problem . Then I get the set list of 34 songs of witch I have only played 1 witch leaves me 2 1/2 weeks to learn 33 songs .

    Johnny B. Goode

    Doctor Doctor

    Some Kind of Wonderful

    Talk Dirty To Me

    I Want You to Want Me

    Cocaine

    I Saw Her Standing There (Beatles)

    Under The Boardwalk

    Wonderful Tonight

    Last Kiss

    Pretty Woman

    My Best Friend's Girl

    Hippy Hippy Shake

    Brown Eyed Girl

    Mustang Sally

    She F###ing Hates Me

    You May Be Right

    Sweet Home Alabama

    Gimme 3 Steps

    Melt With You

    Summer of 69

    Shook Me All Night Long

    Hanky Panky

    Good Lovin

    Tube Snake Boogie

    Keep Your Hands To Yourself

    Little Sister

    Blue Suede Shoes

    Jailhouse Rock

    Crocodile Rock

    Proud Mary

    Bad Moon Rising

    500 Miles

    Every Rose Has It's Thorn

    Yea I can play the core beats in these songs however , I worry that it will be just that with the time I got and will sound boring . I dont want to bail on him but I dont want to hold the rest of the band back .
    34 songs in 2 weeks thats a problem? Sorry ive gotten to the point where i can hear a song once and know how to play it so maybe Im just a little out of touch on reality with this one. But shoot this doesnt sound to hard for me. I can be put in positon where i have 12hrs to learn 3/4 of the songs listed. just play the songs the best you can. Dedicate all your practice time to learning these songs. listen to them in the car think of what you would do to play these songs.
    DW Remo Vic Firth Zidljian

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    My cheatsheet notes:guitar starts, drums start, all in, stops after chorus, keep yer head up, standard blues ending, stuff like that, and just listen to the songs as often as you can, as mentioned above...

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    I'd be more worried about seeing Blue Suede Shoes and Melt With You on the same set list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by groovearteest View Post
    34 songs in 2 weeks thats a problem? Sorry ive gotten to the point where i can hear a song once and know how to play it so maybe Im just a little out of touch on reality with this one.
    for the age of experience of the OP (newb in 08) I'd say he's doing well, so 34 songs to me after about 4 years of drumming is quite a bit to learn in 2 weeks.

    If I were you I'd put them onto MP3 in the order they want to play them in, and just listen to that for the next 2 weeks on repeat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazaamski View Post
    You are not gonna be holding the rest of the band back. Just go out there do your thing, and fill every 16 or 32 bars. They will let you know if there's a part with no drums :D
    Those songs are mostly straight ahead rock songs. I would say just tell them to start playing, and then fall in as the song gets started. A jam session at a bar is not opening for the stones at Madison Square Gardens. Just go have fun.
    Quote Originally Posted by jazzkat View Post
    +1
    +2

    A few have pretty good drum parts. Basic and straightforward. Should be fun. I Want You to Want Me has always been one of my favs to rock to. Bun E Carlos is the man! Before doing the gig though, I'd probably like a quick jam session with them first to check out the band's chemistry.
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