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    I tend to just use cymbals how i see fit, i think the category stamped on it is mearly a suggestion, i've used some mad combinations of things if i thought they sounded good and quite regularly crash my 20" K custom and have used a 14 bottom aax hat as a ride a few times. A cymbal stamped up as a crash/ride might not do what it says but it'll be useful to someone for something.
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  2. #27

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    just my $0.02...

    Crash/rides are like all-season tires.

    They do the job, but they're not very good at any season.

    YMMV
    DW drums and Paiste cymbals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kay-gee View Post
    A cymbal is a cymbal. Hit it. Sometimes I'm playing with un-amplified acoustic guitars and I'll ride on a splash or overturned hat cymbal. Haven't had the drum police arrest me yet!

    Playing concerts with full amplification...different matter. Stick to ride and crash for best results.

    all the best...
    This sounds like a good idea for when there isn't room on the "stage" for both a crash and a ride cymbal.
    Jack

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    Hmm...John Bonham had no problem crashing the heck out of his 24" 2oo2 Paiste ride cymbal. Too him it was a crash/ride when needed. and he made it sound good.... Just sayin'
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    Quote Originally Posted by isaacvining View Post
    I use two rides with my main setup. I use them both as crashes and both as rides. They sound fantastic for both!
    What rides do you have?

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    The Sabian HHX groove ride is pretty good crashed and a good ride, and I know some people like Tomash Haake has a 22" Legacy heavy ride as his main crash. There's also a drummer on youtube Troy Wright who has a few rides that he uses as crashes. They sound wicked in his videos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigbeatlebowski View Post
    What rides do you have?
    I use a 22" Meinl Sand ride and a 24" Heartbeat Light ride. LOVE them.
    Kits:
    -C&C Player Date 13/16/22
    -65' Ludwig Super Classic 13/16/22

    Snares:
    -DW Nickel Over Brass 6.5x14 snare
    -Ludwig Black Galaxy Acrolite 5x14 snare
    -Ludwig 65' Super Classic 5x14 snare
    -Ludwig 64' Pioneer 5x14 snare
    -PDP Classic Wood hoop 6x14 snare

    Rides:
    -Zildjian 22" Constantinople
    -Zildjian 22" Kerope
    -Zildjian 20" Constantinople
    Hats:
    -17" A Medium crash over K custom dark crash

    -DW 9000 pedals

  8. #33

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    all cymbals are crash rides...lol

  9. #34

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    I have a B8 Sabian crash/ride I use as a crash. Sounds better than my Z and Leopard HH from Sabian
    Conrad

  10. #35

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    Quote Originally Posted by PlanetZildjian View Post
    Hmm...John Bonham had no problem crashing the heck out of his 24" 2oo2 Paiste ride cymbal. Too him it was a crash/ride when needed. and he made it sound good.... Just sayin'
    I have a very powerful main ride, which is just to much sometimes, so I bought an 18" crash/ride and love it. Rides at a lower volume and "lighter" if you know what I mean and though it is not my main crash, I do use it and it is powerful with excellent sustain. You are right John Bonham had no issues crashing that big 24" 2002 (Listen to No Quarter) and Jason used 2 Zil k crash/rides as his crashes for the Celebration Day concert. Good enough for the Bonham family, then good enough for me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by coolhand1969 View Post
    I have a very powerful main ride, which is just to much sometimes, so I bought an 18" crash/ride and love it. Rides at a lower volume and "lighter" if you know what I mean and though it is not my main crash, I do use it and it is powerful with excellent sustain. You are right John Bonham had no issues crashing that big 24" 2002 (Listen to No Quarter) and Jason used 2 Zil k crash/rides as his crashes for the Celebration Day concert. Good enough for the Bonham family, then good enough for me!
    Lol, this pretty much sums up my drumming career; if Bonham uses it, then it's good
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    Quote Originally Posted by josephusz View Post
    Lol, this pretty much sums up my drumming career; if Bonham uses it, then it's good
    Just checked out an interview with Jason and they were 2 21" crash/rides for the Celebration Day Concert.

    I think the world of Jason, not only as a drummer, but as a person and have thought about writing a piece on him for the forum. Cymbal wise, during the CD Concert, I only thought he was let down by 1 cymbal, his 24" K Thin Ride. This is obviously an excellent cymbal, but it just lacked the power of the 24" 2002 John used. But all of that could have been due to the mikes, the mixing or whatever else, who knows. By the way, I read an interview with one of John's old drum rechs and he said John also used a crash/ride on occassion.

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    The Omni is THE ONLY true crash/ride.
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    Sweeeeeeeet Ride!

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    I've never used a crash/ride until my current band. It's okay but prefer separate cymbals. Bought an older Zildjian c/r for this band and it ended up cracking. Have a 20" Meinl crash and just ride that now when the parts come around. Not sold on double duty cymbals
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricardo View Post
    I have never seen a combination Crash / Ride cymbal that I liked at all.
    A cymbal is either a crash.........or a ride........or effect.........simple.
    That's how I feel. I HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE crash/rides!!!!! HATE EM'!!!!!!!

  17. #42

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    It's like trying to mix a hi-hat and china.....Wait what if they had those?
    Happy Drumming!

    IS15

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    Quote Originally Posted by imperialstar15 View Post
    It's like trying to mix a hi-hat and china.....Wait what if they had those?

    Couldn't you create a somewhat similar effect with a stack, assuming it was the right 2 cymbals, on a hi-hat stand? Just thinking...

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    Nope just not right Ride is a ride . crash is a crash Just ask my car

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcs90 View Post
    Couldn't you create a somewhat similar effect with a stack, assuming it was the right 2 cymbals, on a hi-hat stand? Just thinking...
    You could. I wonder if anyone has done that before,They would be very trashy hi-hats, and I also imagine that they would crack very quickly if you played them like hi-hats
    Happy Drumming!

    IS15

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    Quote Originally Posted by imperialstar15 View Post
    You could. I wonder if anyone has done that before,They would be very trashy hi-hats, and I also imagine that they would crack very quickly if you played them like hi-hats
    I'd imagine it'd depend on the specific cymbals involved and the style of the drummer. I'm sure someone has tried it though. Maybe with something like the Zildjian Trashformer? Alone those are very china-ish, stacked on something else they make it very trashy too...

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    One more time I need to throw in there.... I love crash rides.

    In fact 90% of the time my live setup is just two crash rides!

    Kits:
    -C&C Player Date 13/16/22
    -65' Ludwig Super Classic 13/16/22

    Snares:
    -DW Nickel Over Brass 6.5x14 snare
    -Ludwig Black Galaxy Acrolite 5x14 snare
    -Ludwig 65' Super Classic 5x14 snare
    -Ludwig 64' Pioneer 5x14 snare
    -PDP Classic Wood hoop 6x14 snare

    Rides:
    -Zildjian 22" Constantinople
    -Zildjian 22" Kerope
    -Zildjian 20" Constantinople
    Hats:
    -17" A Medium crash over K custom dark crash

    -DW 9000 pedals

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    I know of quite a few good rides that have great crashs :D
    Sabian HH vintage ride 21"
    Sabian AAX Stage ride 20"
    Any Zildjian A Custom ride, I personally like the Projection Ride,
    Sabian AAX Raw Bell Dry Ride 21" And the Zildjian K Crash Rides

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    Quote Originally Posted by isaacvining View Post
    One more time I need to throw in there.... I love crash rides.

    In fact 90% of the time my live setup is just two crash rides!

    Cool set up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by isaacvining View Post
    One more time I need to throw in there.... I love crash rides.

    In fact 90% of the time my live setup is just two crash rides!

    Like the set, but as far as crash/rides......to each his own.

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