Possible Ludwig Black Beauty trade

[longgun]

Hey guys,

Wanted to throw this out there and see if anyone would be interested.

I have a 2012 Ludwig Black Beauty in great shape. It is a 6.5 x 14 and the only modification is I replaced the P-85 with a Trick throw. I currently have an Evans HD dry batter and the stock Ludwig reso on it.

I am really loving the "hammered" Ludwig Black Beauty.................just something about it.

If anyone would be interested in a straight trade, please respond to this thread or PM me .

here's a couple of pics







don't worry, the writing on the head was for a recent gig and the head has been replaced.

One more thing, this is not a "blem" or B-stock BB.

[kay-gee]

Why on earth would you replace the p-85? throw?

all the best...

[RHD03]

I know what you mean...used to have a 14X6.5 BB, hammered shell with tube lugs...had to let it go a few years ago. I'll get another someday.

Was there something wrong with the throw off?

Good luck with the possible trade.

[longgun]

Why on earth would you replace the p-85? throw?

all the best...

I know what you mean...used to have a 14X6.5 BB, hammered shell with tube lugs...had to let it go a few years ago. I'll get another someday.

Was there something wrong with the throw off?

Good luck with the possible trade.

Thanks.

Nope, nothing wrong with the P-85...........just wanted a better throw-off............the 3 position Trick is awesome.

[RHD03]

Cool, that's a pretty nice piece of hardware for sure.

[signia fan]

Not sure why Ludwig does not get with the times. They sell some premium snare drums but only offer 1950 technology throw offs. Some swear by them, I think it is merely sentimental because they really are trash when compared to Trick, DW, even Ronn Dummit makes a better throw off.

[Sticks4drums]

Not sure why Ludwig does not get with the times. They sell some premium snare drums but only offer 1950 technology throw offs. Some swear by them, I think it is merely sentimental because they really are trash when compared to Trick, DW, even Ronn Dummit makes a better throw off.

Actually you can throw Mapex and any other company in there as well.

[FlyByNight]

That's one beautiful snare!

[kay-gee]

Not sure why Ludwig does not get with the times. They sell some premium snare drums but only offer 1950 technology throw offs. Some swear by them, I think it is merely sentimental because they really are trash when compared to Trick, DW, even Ronn Dummit makes a better throw off.

No sir!

Ludwig P-85 is the best throw off ever made. Simple, Easy to use, reliable...bulletproof

all the best...

[ludleg]

The P-85, in my experience, has been hit and miss. The one that came on my Jazz Festival sucked from day 1. It constantly jammed and took two hands to engage. The P-85 that came with my Acrolite was smooth as silk. Anyway, I replaced both of them with the Ludwig P-86 throw off. It, IMHO, is far superior to the P-85.

[longgun]

The P-85, in my experience, has been hit and miss. The one that came on my Jazz Festival sucked from day 1. It constantly jammed and took two hands to engage. The P-85 that came with my Acrolite was smooth as silk. Anyway, I replaced both of them with the Ludwig P-86 throw off. It, IMHO, is far superior to the P-85.

I agree.........have a P-86 on my supra and it works great

[kay-gee]

The P-85, in my experience, has been hit and miss.

The one that came on my Jazz Festival sucked from day 1. It constantly jammed and took two hands to engage.

The P-85 that came with my Acrolite was smooth as silk. Anyway, I replaced both of them with the Ludwig P-86 throw off. It, IMHO, is far superior to the P-85.

Send that one to a drum museum cause it must be the only one of it's kind in the world.

all the best...

[dangermoney]

The P-85, in my experience, has been hit and miss. The one that came on my Jazz Festival sucked from day 1. It constantly jammed and took two hands to engage. The P-85 that came with my Acrolite was smooth as silk. Anyway, I replaced both of them with the Ludwig P-86 throw off. It, IMHO, is far superior to the P-85.

I've had similar experiences with them. If you get a good one then it's a keeper but if you get a dud then the [later] P-86 is the best way to go. Both of my workhorse gigging snares wear P-86s and they're still rock solid after hundreds of gigs ...

But then I also have P-85s that are working perfectly after 40 years ...

[Sticks4drums]

Send that one to a drum museum cause it must be the only one of it's kind in the world.

all the best...

You can send mine along with it, then they will have a back up, in case one starts working properly.

[dangermoney]

Nice drum by the way ...

[xsabers]

I have to agree about the P-85. They are notorious for sticking. I have a P-86 on my Supra and it's much more reliable.

[longgun]

Nice drum by the way ...

Thanks.....................still have G.A.S. for a hammered BB