Hi all, first time poster here.
Apologies in advance if this subject has been discussed already.
I'm seeking a cheap though durable and sturdy cymbal stand for my 18'' crash, what is a good one for me to take a look at?
I'm currently looking at the Gibraltar 4609 Arm stand, which is apperently a very popular stand.
Also, due to the Splash cymbal purchase I'm gonna make in a near future, what is the best way to mount a splash cymbal?
Am I better off having a separate stand for it, or is clamping it to another stand best?
Would love to hear your suggestions,
josephusz
Custom Classic Pro Maple 6
8",10",12",13" Mounted Toms
(2)14",16" Floor Toms
22" x 18" Kick
6",8",10" Roto Toms
14" x 6.5" Mapex Black Panther Snare
13" x 3" Pearl Piccolo Snare
Sabian: 13" Paragon Hats
14" HH X Hats
22" Paragon Ride
(2) 16" Paragon Crashes
20" Paragon Crash
18" Paragon Crash
20" Paragon Small Flange China
19" Paragon China
Wuhan:20"with gingles
8",10" Splash
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Welcome, Joe. Definitely no need to buy a second stand just to mount a splash. Now if you're planning to add more cymbals down the road, then yeah, I can see the rationale. Also, you might do a bit better for the price looking around your local pawn shops. Drums and hardware are pretty ubiquitous. Might find something even more substantial for the same price as brand new.
I bought a 2pk of Sound Percussion stands with the hide-away boom arms. They are not "high end", but they are plenty solid enough for my 1 or 2 gigs per month. Best part, it only cost like $69 total for the both of them with free shipping and no tax.
-Brian
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-Brian
"Too many crappy used drum stuff to list"
Play the SONG......not the DRUMS!!!
"I think that feeling is a lot more important than technique. It's all very well doing a triple paradiddle - but who's going to know you've done it? If you play technically you sound like everybody else. It's being original that counts." ~ John Bonham
I bought some 600 series Basix stands a couple years ago. They been set up and torn down repeatedly since and have been holding up. They are the straight stands with hideaway boom arms rubber feet, chrome top wing nut, just one extension point which is enough for me
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I would look around for used stands. I got a Tama RoadPro hideaway boom stand for $10 yesterday, in great shape. Check online as well as local stores that take in used stuff.
Thank you all for your suggestions. I think I'm going to buy the Gibraltar stand, but not after some searching for some secondhand quality as psc90 suggested.
I currently own a very solid Mapex stand (cant identify the type) which only cost me like 30 euros secondhanded. But I kind of want to have a brand new stand; dont know really why lol, might as well do some searching on eBay now.
I can vouch for both Pearl and Pdp stands, both solid and well made. +1 to the small clamp mount for the splash too, definitely the easiest and cheapest way to go about that.
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i love my drumcraft series 7 and 8 stands ...amazing value
if you can, dont skimp on stands ...you will regret it in the future
craigslist is where I'd look.
I mount mine on one of those Yamaha "cymbal extensions"...its an arm that replaces the normal cymbal tilter...one the upper end of the extension the arm allows you to place the cymbal tilter onto the extension arm ...thereby giving you a place to put the splash cymbal which is now on top of the 18" crash. Gibraltar makes a similar extension...you remove the wing nut on your crash cymbal and screw on the Gibraltar extension...the extension has the washer...the felts and the wing nut...allowing you to place the splash on top of the crash...Ive used this set up for years and years...I'd be lost without it.
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I would add don't buy just because a stand is double braced-that means more weight to carry if you gig. I have yet to see a stand collapse from cymbal weight. My single braced stands work just fine, thank you .
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Finally someone else said it!
The only thing that matters is the distribution of weight. If the legs spread out enough for your cymbal you'll be fine. The reason double braced is nice is because it adds weight closer to the ground to keep a cymbal from making a stand top heavy. But a lightweight double braced is not as good as a medium weight single braced.
Unfortunately people think "double braced" is a make or break, when unless its a boom or a huge cymbal on a straight IT WONT MATTER.
-Steven
I've used single-braced for cymbals of various sizes and weights before and I have had no problems. However I use double-braced stands now for just about everything because I clamp so many items onto the stands that any single-braced one just feels very unstable or just falls over. As for splashes, Gibraltar 6" Mini Cymbal Stackers. They give you enough room between the 2 cymbals and they're cheap! That or mini boom arms if you want more flexibility, however I've been fine with the stackers...and I use at least 5 splashes all the time, 4 of them are on these stackers.
Custom Classic Pro Maple 6
8",10",12",13" Mounted Toms
(2)14",16" Floor Toms
22" x 18" Kick
6",8",10" Roto Toms
14" x 6.5" Mapex Black Panther Snare
13" x 3" Pearl Piccolo Snare
Sabian: 13" Paragon Hats
14" HH X Hats
22" Paragon Ride
(2) 16" Paragon Crashes
20" Paragon Crash
18" Paragon Crash
20" Paragon Small Flange China
19" Paragon China
Wuhan:20"with gingles
8",10" Splash
Roc N Soc Lunar
DW 8002B Pedals
Tambourine
Cowbell
Sabian Squad
C C Militia
Custom Classic Pro Maple 6
8",10",12",13" Mounted Toms
(2)14",16" Floor Toms
22" x 18" Kick
6",8",10" Roto Toms
14" x 6.5" Mapex Black Panther Snare
13" x 3" Pearl Piccolo Snare
Sabian: 13" Paragon Hats
14" HH X Hats
22" Paragon Ride
(2) 16" Paragon Crashes
20" Paragon Crash
18" Paragon Crash
20" Paragon Small Flange China
19" Paragon China
Wuhan:20"with gingles
8",10" Splash
Roc N Soc Lunar
DW 8002B Pedals
Tambourine
Cowbell
Sabian Squad
C C Militia
I always have them meet me in front of the police station.
Yes, that’s a good idea. We have Quick Trip stores in our area where people like to make exchanges, always brightly lit, video surveilled, and busy. Plus I have an advanced black belt and I’m always armed. The one time I traveled out of town to do a porch pick up I checked the area on Google maps and found what background I could about the seller on the net. Never had a problem.
The boomy things:
Mapex Orion Classic 6 pc, transparent violet burl
The pingy/crashy things:
K Custom Dark and K Darks
K Sweet
Meinl Byzance
Silken Sebring and Avus
Dream Bliss and Contact
More cowbells than I have cows.
The "quiet time" things:
Zildjian L80 low volume cymbals
Aquarian Super-Pads
Roland TD9, Pintech drum triggers, Yamaha cymbal triggers
I had to bump this up. I've only seen a splash cymbal mounted like this just one other time and I winced when I saw this on my local CL today. The amount of stress that's put on the hoop to keep the clamp from moving must be tremendous not to mention the strain on the shell when the cymbal is struck. :(
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