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    So ive basically tried everything to get my Toms the sound I like I need some help ive tried moongel and didnt like the sound I just need that over tone out so does anyone know ant homemade solutions? Help is appreciated and the reason I say homemade is because ive tried almost everything thing on the market so please help!!!!

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    How are you at tuning and how good are your shells and bearing edges? Reason I ask; I've found that I can get rid of 99% of the nasty overtones by really fine tuning the heads and playing with the tension relationship between the top and bottom heads. If your bearing edges are bad or shells are warped, it next to impossible to get rid of overtones completely.
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    It might be helpful to you to check out the vast tuning section on Drumchat, since you're a bit vague about the sound you want. So many variables: the room you play in, the heads you have(batter and reso), and the choice of music you play....
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    Well, it sounds like you want a low rock thud with minimum overtones. I've re-read through your posts and didn't see any mention from you about what kind of heads your using. If they are still the stock heads, that is 90% of your problem. If they are after market heads, then your tuning prowess is the most responsible for eliminating overtones. After that if you need even more it's either multiple moon gels, a muffling ring, or strategic tape placement. Remo Pinstripes are a popular choice for getting that low rock thud sound everyone strives for because they have a muffling ring already built in, and their a 2 ply head. Also what are you using for ear protection? A good pair of sound attenuation headphones does wonders for how your drums sound in the drivers seat.
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    Ok so I was out to find a solution and I went to my local drum shop I bought remo pinstripe heads for the Toms and remo o-rings and I am very happy with it thanks to wolvie56 for the suggestion

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    Now any suggeations for the snare? Haha

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    Coated Pinstripe

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    I use that now not to fond of it.
    Any muffling techniques? Because if possible I would like to keep the head its only 3 Weeks old

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    You can try some moongel for now but in the future when you are thinking of changing heads may I suggest Evans EC frosted with reverse dot would be one to try. I use it and love it.
    This is what the head looks like.



    No matter where you hit on the head you get all kinds of different sounds and great for rim shots, ghosts notes etc. Great head
    Last edited by Pearl MCX Man; 10-16-2013 at 06:54 AM.

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    What is wrong with the coated pinstripe? You wanted a heavily dampened sound didnt you?

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    Nothing wrong with the the cps just not fond of pinstripes on the snare and im definitely going to try out the Evans reversed dot

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    To me the best snare head will always be a coated ambo or g1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 13yrolddrummer View Post
    Nothing wrong with the the cps just not fond of pinstripes on the snare and im definitely going to try out the Evans reversed dot
    Before you do, visit the Evans website and read up on that head. Good luck

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    Ok thanks for he advice

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pearl MCX Man View Post
    You can try some moongel for now but in the future when you are thinking of changing heads may I suggest Evans EC frosted with reverse dot would be one to try. I use it and love it.
    This is what the head looks like.



    No matter where you hit on the head you get all kinds of different sounds and great for rim shots, ghosts notes etc. Great head
    This is a great snare head. So far is my favorite.
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    Just picked it up today and im loving it haha

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    Good for you I knew you would love it cause I do. That head was not very popular when it first came out and I think I was one of the first members to buy one. Atfter boasting about this I remember some being bias about them and then all of a sudden it started to get popular more and more . You made a good choice now you should try the EC2's on your toms.

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    Reverse Dot is a fantastic snare head. As far as muffling or dampening your toms, be careful with that. Remember that what you hear in the driver's seat is not always what is heard out in front of the kit. There seems to be a difference in tone and sustain, I have found, between live and in the studio. Tuned right, double ply heads left wide open don't always sound like they have much sustain in a live setting. Experiment with different heads and tuning. To me, nothing sounds worse than a dead drum.

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    ^^^^^ ditto that.

    I have tuned to "perfection" at home but more tweaking required when I played at a larger venue, with mics, without mics, etc.

    Double coated heads addressed a lot of any need and desire I had previously for external muffling (rings, gel...)
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