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    I mean why are they positioned, for the most part, to the front (reso) of the kick and not more towards the back, where we drummers sit? I've never seen anybody prefer mounted toms farther away from them! I'll bet drummers who prefer virgin kicks hang their toms closer to them than they can with kick mounts.
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    Somebody's trying to start trouble. But seriously, I know what you mean. I don't think that I could get my rack tom where it is if it was mounted on the kick.
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    My best guess as to why front positioning is popular has to do with two major concerns, reach and angles. If you have longer arms it might be easier for you to hit something further away, rather than closer - where you'd bend your elbow more. Anglewise, if it's a little further away(but not overly so) towards the front, you can take that tom and get it real steep(around 45 degrees). Back when I first started out, I loved those super deep 80's angles cause it was super easy to reach the tom for me(i'm 6'4, long arms), but in doing so it would raise the clearance of any nearby cymbals, such as my crashes and splash. If I had shorter arms i'd prefer them mounted driver's seat, instead. Whatever works for the player.
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    From what I've noticed, some manufacturers place them in the middle...or make them slide on rail. My biggest complaint is with my Pearl Exports. I LOVE how solid the 7/8" mount arms are, but I just can't get them placed where I want without them being at a strange angle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slinglander View Post
    I mean why are they positioned, for the most part, to the front (reso) of the kick and not more towards the back, where we drummers sit? I've never seen anybody prefer mounted toms farther away from them! I'll bet drummers who prefer virgin kicks hang their toms closer to them than they can with kick mounts.
    I'm glad its not just me. I have a pearl kit with 12/13 mounted toms - that is ok, but I prefer to mount 10/12 toms - I cannot get the 10 tom close enough and resort to stand mounting it. I have long arms - but I also have proportionately long legs if I bring the kick in closer to me it feels too cramped.
    I like the convenience and security of kick mounted toms - the sliding tom mount arrangement on the Tama S/Classic Performer and Silverstar kits makes lots of sense to me. I hope that this idea or something similar is used by the other manufacturers as quickly as possible.

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    On my old slingerland bass drum 14x24 in. it was towards the front. I moved it to the middle then after that I replaced it with a yamaha mount. The bass drum not being very deep I was able to use the rear holes for the front and plug the front ones w/carrage bolts.I was able to do this because my set is chrome finish and it worked perfect.

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    For what it's worth, I'm 6'1" with a wingspan around 6'3"-6'4". I just don't like to have to reach.
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    Ive never had an issue, Im 5' 10"

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    I never had any issues with my bass drum mounted 12 x9-13x10 toms. They are tilted a bit . I am also 5' 10 and can hit all my drums without reaching out. I have never played on a virgin kit so I really would not know the difference.

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    In the beginning, I will admit that bass mounted toms made things a lot faster and simpler. I did like how fast it was to set up a drum kit if the tom is already in close proximity to where it will end up being positioned. Came in handy when I travelled with it.
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    I think a lot depends on your leg position playing the kick pedal: if you don't like sitting "on top" of your kick because you can't get the ankle/foot action you want, you tend to sit farther away from your kick mounted toms. I think,too, that it's a balance thing for the kick which is already sitting tilted with its one end up. The weight of mounted toms helps keep the front end "down" or anchored to the floor with less drum creep.
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    I'm assuming they are mounted so the kick doesn't tip over from the weight of the toms. The farther away from the center of mass, the easier to tip. Since they are mounted towards and tilting towards the drummer, they have to be positioned somewhat centrally to keep the whole thing balanced.

    FYI, Tama has (or had at least) sliding tom holders that would allow 4 or 5" of adjustment for this purpose.

    As Slingerlander pointed out, playing heel up or down will also affect how the setup seems to you, and like NR I've never had a problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slinglander View Post
    I mean why are they positioned, for the most part, to the front (reso) of the kick and not more towards the back, where we drummers sit?
    Because my snare is in the way?

    I just mount my stuff where it's comfortable I guess.

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    I would prefer the mount closer to the beater head too, if I could, so my legs can stretch.

    Now I offset my toms and put a cymbal arm in the bass mount, so it actually works out well having it further away.

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    i use the same set up as Weezy. I have some really old picture when I was still playing the deer rack setup
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    no issues here



    but its a very short kick drum 22x14

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