I used Brasso on mine, and they shined-up nicely. Is there some reason to use a specialty cymbal cleaner on them?
Getting some new AAXs all with brilliant finishes on them from the factory. Any suggestions on keeping them clean and shiny? Does the Sabian stuff work good? I know that with my Paistes, their cleaners work really well, but I don't really know what to use on Sabians..thanks.
I used Brasso on mine, and they shined-up nicely. Is there some reason to use a specialty cymbal cleaner on them?
I tried the ketchup method today. It really worked and did not take off logos. Just brush a nice thick coat on and let it sit fifteen to twenty minutes... then rinse with warm water and wrote dry. Cheap and easy. Worked awesome on mine!
Kits:
2014 Gretsch Catalina Club Classic 4pc Ocean Twilight Sparkle 8x12, 14x5.5, 14x14, 14x20
1976 Ludwig Classic 6pc Black Diamond Pearl (Restoration in progress)
Saluda Cymbals:
13" Symbolic Prototype Hand Hammered Jazz Hi Hats
20" Earthworks Medium Crash/Ride
15" Mist X Crash
8" Decadence China Blast Splash
16" Rancan China
For older, tarnished cymbals Brasso works great, but I wouldn't go near brand new brilliant finished ones with that kind of abrasive product (plus it takes the logos off) If you are going to spend that kind of scratch on new pies my advice is spend a few more bucks to get whatever Sabian recommends to keep them shiny
Brilliant finish cymbals have a special coating to keep them from oxidizing. A lite solution of vinegar and water.
Try the ketchup, I tell ya. It didn't take off any of my logos at all. I used a soft silicone bbq brush to spread it around. I wasn't a believer until I tried it for myself. I watched youtube vids before I did it. Of course, mine are older cymbals... :D
Kits:
2014 Gretsch Catalina Club Classic 4pc Ocean Twilight Sparkle 8x12, 14x5.5, 14x14, 14x20
1976 Ludwig Classic 6pc Black Diamond Pearl (Restoration in progress)
Saluda Cymbals:
13" Symbolic Prototype Hand Hammered Jazz Hi Hats
20" Earthworks Medium Crash/Ride
15" Mist X Crash
8" Decadence China Blast Splash
16" Rancan China
If they are new, they won't need cleaned with anything, but a cloth for a long time. Just wipe them off often, maybe every wk. Some people wipe them off after each time they use them.
Soft cloth, warm water, micro-fibre cloth to dry & polish them... that's it.
Acoustic & Electronic:
Pearl Prestige World Series WLX 1988
Tama Swingstar 1983
Tama Superstar Hyper-Drive (Birch) 2007
Ludwig Acrolite Snare 1976
Ludwig Supraphonic 6.5x14" 2021
Pearl Sensitone Elite Aluminum 5.5" and 6.5" Snare
Pearl COB Custom Deluxe [Gladstone] (75-76) Snare
Love Drum Co. Hammered Steel 5.5" Snare
Roland TD-1KV
Paiste
Accent 8"
Paiste Signature:
6", 10" Splash
14" Dark Crisp Hi-Hats
14" Sound Edge Hi-Hats
16", 17", 18",19", 20" Full Crash
22" Symphonic Med-Heavy (use as a Ride)
Paiste Formula 602:
22" Formula 602 Modern Essentials Ride
Paiste 2oo2:
22" Ride
16" Crash
8",10" Splash
Paiste 2oo2 Big Beat:
15" Hi-Hats
19", 20", 21" Big Beat Multifunctional
Paiste Sound Formula:
16" Crash
20" Full Ride (Frankenstein)
Paiste Twenty:
16" China
Paiste Alpha (original Swiss made):
12" Splash
Paiste PST7:
Medium
16", 18" Crash
20" Ride
14" Hi-Hats
Sabian:
XS20 18" China
AA 14" Fusion Hi-Hats
I bought all my cymbals used, when I first got them I give them a really good clean with brasso - the tarnished ones anyway. Brasso stinks like you wouldn't believe, is hard work and really messy (make sure you have plenty of clean soft cloths) and preferably clean them outdoors. The chemicals in it gave me a monster headache so now I try to avoid it. After the first clean up I have used dishwashing soapy water, rinsed off and dried. I leave them on the stands after drying - and wipe dry again about 20 minutes later - if you leave even a hint of water on them they will develop green spots. For the last year I have not needed to repeat the brasso treatment as they remain clean. I wash my cymbals whenever they start getting a bit stick marked and greasy with fingerprints - normally once a week or so.
I have cleaned off greasy lacquered cymbals with a gas soaked rag - it works a treat, it doesn't seem to affect the lacquer coat but will wash away logos REALLY easily. I wash away any gas residue with soapy water and dry carefully. I have stopped doing this as gas fumes also give me a headache. If you are tempted to try - do it outdoors.
Be careful using brasso on lacquered cymbals as it is abrasive and will wear through it - it will also remove logos. It seems fine on brilliant finish cymbals though but be careful - clean around logos if you want to keep them.
I have tried using ketchup and it works ok if you smear it on and leave it for 30 minutes or so (if they are really corroded leave it longer), just wash it off afterwards - but it didn't work on lacquered cymbals and left the lacquer looking streaky so I had to clean them again. Its fine on uncoated bronze or brass though. I believe the active ingredient that cleans metal in ketchup is vinegar - NRs suggestion of a vinegar solution sounds good to me.
Just don't touch them or play them when you get them. This will keep them really clean!
I'd just play them and not worry about it. I'd dusted off my A Customs a couple of times since I got them about 1.5 years ago.
Also, Sabian offers the "refresh" service for $40 which might be worth it every few years if you like the shiny look. I wish Zildjian would follow suit.
-Brian
"Too many crappy used drum stuff to list"
Play the SONG......not the DRUMS!!!
"I think that feeling is a lot more important than technique. It's all very well doing a triple paradiddle - but who's going to know you've done it? If you play technically you sound like everybody else. It's being original that counts." ~ John Bonham
-Brian
"Too many crappy used drum stuff to list"
Play the SONG......not the DRUMS!!!
"I think that feeling is a lot more important than technique. It's all very well doing a triple paradiddle - but who's going to know you've done it? If you play technically you sound like everybody else. It's being original that counts." ~ John Bonham
Kits:
2014 Gretsch Catalina Club Classic 4pc Ocean Twilight Sparkle 8x12, 14x5.5, 14x14, 14x20
1976 Ludwig Classic 6pc Black Diamond Pearl (Restoration in progress)
Saluda Cymbals:
13" Symbolic Prototype Hand Hammered Jazz Hi Hats
20" Earthworks Medium Crash/Ride
15" Mist X Crash
8" Decadence China Blast Splash
16" Rancan China
Always practice SAFE cymbal cleaning and use a condiment.
-Brian
"Too many crappy used drum stuff to list"
Play the SONG......not the DRUMS!!!
"I think that feeling is a lot more important than technique. It's all very well doing a triple paradiddle - but who's going to know you've done it? If you play technically you sound like everybody else. It's being original that counts." ~ John Bonham
All my cymbals have the original logos,etc. ..and they all look really good. I swiffer them off regularly... I take a damp cloth to any nasty fingerprints and such. When the swiffering and damp cloth aren't doing it anymore (about twice a year now) I put them in the bathtub with dish soap and warm water and the stick marks seem to come off easily with as non abrasive (white) scrub pad. Then I rinse and towel them dry.. and finish with a light coat of Lemon Pledge.
Kits:
2014 Gretsch Catalina Club Classic 4pc Ocean Twilight Sparkle 8x12, 14x5.5, 14x14, 14x20
1976 Ludwig Classic 6pc Black Diamond Pearl (Restoration in progress)
Saluda Cymbals:
13" Symbolic Prototype Hand Hammered Jazz Hi Hats
20" Earthworks Medium Crash/Ride
15" Mist X Crash
8" Decadence China Blast Splash
16" Rancan China
Ketchup belongs on hot dogs not cymbals.
Lemons!
I've been using lemons for years now and I have to say, when I first tried this method I was amazed.
Cut a lemon in half and use one half for a cymbal. Squeeze some juice out onto the cymbal and move the lemon with the grooves on the cymbal, then just dry it with a rag. I could see my reflection in my wuhan splashes after this method.
About the tomato/lemon thing - won't this eat through the finish? Seems to me like it might shine them up temporarily but they may dull faster.
Is this true?
Brilliant finish is an electroplating process. You know, heat, acid polarization, chemical bonding, that old gem. Lemon juice does not harm it at all, traditional finish too. It won't take the ink logos off either. One thing to remember is that fingerprints and other oils left on brilliant cymbals will eventually permanently discolor them. Once this happens they will not come off without a professional buffing, which will also remove the logos. That's why I switched to traditional finish.
Last edited by SunDog; 08-26-2014 at 04:27 PM.
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You might try a non abrasive cleaner like Kick'n'brass. Not only does it clean the finish - but you get the added bonus of logo protection and it's bio-degradable too.
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