Advice on buying Cymbals being on a budget

[skills]

Hey guys, it's skills here.
Google brought me back to DC.

Before I tell you about it, i want to say I'm so sorry for my English, hope it makes sense what I tell you now.


A few weeks ago I finally had the chance to replace my 14" Paiste Alpha Medium Hats and I got some sweet 15" Paiste 2002 Sound Edge Hats.

The thing is, I desperately need a Crash (18") and I'm on a budget for unknown time.

I currently have:
15" Paiste 2002 Sound Edges Hats
20" Paiste 2002 Heavy Ride


Actually i wanted to buy a 2002 Crash but it cost 260 and I can't afford it, the only way to get it would be saving for 3-4 months.


The second way is buying a Alpha Rock Crash (187), Alpha Boomer (179) or a PST8 Rock Crash (145), the above mentioned Rock Crash isn't for sale in many Stores if you want the 18" although Paiste didn't discontinued it, the Boomer one is actually discontinued but a some Stores still have some for purchase.


If I would choose the Alpha Rock or the Boomer and had luck to get one I really like how they sound if you hit it to crash it, but the bell and the body sounds glassy (the Rock more than the boomer) what I'm not looking for but I like the sound when it's crashed.


The PST8 is the most glassy one.


I hadn't the possibility of listening to them in person but I checked it on YouTube and the Paiste Soundroom.


Do they sound that glassy in person too?


I could get (if it is still available then) the Boomer or Alpha Rock Crash within 1-2 months the PST8 Rock within 1.


So, what would you do?

Buying the Alpha or saving although it is for 3-4 months?


Would like to hear your thoughts.

Skills

[myk]

Hi skills your English is perfect, I know its tough but I think you should wait and get what you really want,you may kick yourself because the money you save for a lesser cymbal could have gone to the 2002, 3-4 months isn't too long and it would be a nice gift for yourself

[N2Bluz]

You might look at a PST7 crash. I think it's pretty close to the 2002 in terms of looks and sound (even closer than the PST8). You may be able to find a used one on eBay.

[skills]

Hi skills your English is perfect, I know its tough but I think you should wait and get what you really want,you may kick yourself because the money you save for a lesser cymbal could have gone to the 2002, 3-4 months isn't too long and it would be a nice gift for yourself

Thanks, that's true.


I like how the PST7 sound like and the Price is really good (125 I think) but is the 18" crash loud enough for harder styles and quiet enough for quieter styles?

[N2Bluz]

Thanks, that's true.


I like how the PST7 sound like and the Price is really good (125 I think) but is the 18" crash loud enough for harder styles and quiet enough for quieter styles?

Depends on how hard you hit it...

[skills]

Depends on how hard you hit it...

Yeah, but you'll reach the point it can't go louder anymore no matter how hard you hit it.

[scorch whammin]

Hi skills your English is perfect, I know its tough but I think you should wait and get what you really want,you may kick yourself because the money you save for a lesser cymbal could have gone to the 2002, 3-4 months isn't too long and it would be a nice gift for yourself

Agreed!... Wait and save for what you want...also have you considered purchasing the 2oo2 cymbal online?...I know casciointerstate sells "mint" condition 2oo2 demos (used) on eBay and usually at a substantial savings...as a matter I purchased many of my 2oo2's from them..I've never had any issues with the ones I purchased ...basically looked like new cymbals when I received them...

[skills]

Agreed!... Wait and save for what you want...also have you considered purchasing the 2oo2 cymbal online?...I know casciointerstate sells "mint" condition 2oo2 demos (used) on eBay and usually at a substantial savings...as a matter I purchased many of my 2oo2's from them..I've never had any issues with the ones I purchased from them...basically looked like new cymbals when I received them...

That's nice but I'm from Germany. :(

[kay-gee]

If you're in Germany, why not drive to Swizterland to the Paiste facility there and hand select your own cymbals? In fact doesn't Paiste have a factory in Germany?

all the best...

[N2Bluz]

Yeah, but you'll reach the point it can't go louder anymore no matter how hard you hit it.

They make them in light, medium and heavy (or at least they did). I don't see why it wouldn't be just as loud as a 2002 version of the same weight. Basically the same metal composition as a 2002. You can always throw an overhead mic on it. If you hit your cymbals that hard, it's probably worth looking into mic'ing them anyway. Like others said, you're already close to half way to the price of a new 2002. Maybe best to just save up for the 2002.

[scorch whammin]

That's nice but I'm from Germany. :(

Gotcha...they do ship to Germany, but the shipping charge probably takes up most of the savings....

[skills]

If you're in Germany, why not drive to Swizterland to the Paiste facility there and hand select your own cymbals? In fact doesn't Paiste have a factory in Germany?

all the best...

I wish I could, I have no drivers license and traveling with the train is too expensive.

Schacht-Audorf is sooo far away from me and although I live in Lake Constance Area this Part of Switzerland would be a long and expensive trip.

[MartyM]

Skills, for a large purchase you really need to hear these..now since you indicated travel is tough right now...I would ask some working drummers in your area to let you hear their cymbals..we are a brotherhood ( and sisterhood, where applicable) and I am sure they would accommodate your request

[skills]

Skills, for a large purchase you really need to hear these..now since you indicated travel is tough right now...I would ask some working drummers in your area to let you hear their cymbals..we are a brotherhood ( and sisterhood, where applicable) and I am sure they would accommodate your request

Unfortunately we are a small town and drummers are really rare.
We have just 1, no kidding and he plays all zildjian k.

[wOOdshedd]

You might look at a PST7 crash. I think it's pretty close to the 2002 in terms of looks and sound (even closer than the PST8). You may be able to find a used one on eBay.

Indeed! Very nice sounding cymbals! Made with that 2oo2 alloy. Love mine!

[skills]

It's such a hard decision!
The PST7 are great sounding on what I've listened to at YouTube and the sound files on the Paiste Page but this can't be true for only 125!

The 2oo2 is fantastic tho.

[crispycritters]

It's such a hard decision!
The PST7 are great sounding on what I've listened to at YouTube and the sound files on the Paiste Page but this can't be true for only 125!

The 2oo2 is fantastic tho.

I haven't read any bad reviews anywhere about the PST7 range. Nobody claims they are as good as the 2002 but they are still decent cymbals..

I wouldn't worry about them not being loud enough - a medium PST cymbal will essentially produce the same overall volume as a 2002 equivalent - the sound may not be quite as sophisticated, but this doesn't mean they lack volume. Just avoid the 'thin' model and you shouldn't have any problems.

I would consider buying a used PST7 via ebay and replacing it when the money is available to buy exactly what you want. But first - if you are worried that an 18" crash wont be loud enough - make sure you have good hearing protection!

[skills]

I haven't read any bad reviews anywhere about the PST7 range. Nobody claims they are as good as the 2002 but they are still decent cymbals..

I wouldn't worry about them not being loud enough - a medium PST cymbal will essentially produce the same overall volume as a 2002 equivalent - the sound may not be quite as sophisticated, but this doesn't mean they lack volume. Just avoid the 'thin' model and you shouldn't have any problems.

I would consider buying a used PST7 via ebay and replacing it when the money is available to buy exactly what you want. But first - if you are worried that an 18" crash wont be loud enough - make sure you have good hearing protection!

There are mediums available?
We in Germany have 3 versions - light, crash and heavy.
I always use my alpine hearsafes when I play on the kit, since I do it would be too loud for me to play without.

[crispycritters]

There are mediums available?
We in Germany have 3 versions - light, crash and heavy.
I always use my alpine hearsafes when I play on the kit, since I do it would be too loud for me to play without.

Yes - the light is the 'thin model', the crash is medium weight, and the heavy is a heavier 'rock' version. Just my opinion - I think either a 'crash' or heavy would work equally well for you. The heavy will probably be glassier sounding and louder with more sustain but I wouldn't rule out the 'crash' version. They are probably both worth checking out.

[Zappahart]

I like the pst7 130 bucks on ebay.18inch crash heavy.sounds good for my money.also thinking about some new hihats also.

[EyePea]

Paiste PST7 20" light ride as a crash is awesome too.

[wOOdshedd]

I own PST7 16 crash, heavy hats and heavy ride. Great cymbals. If you are looking for bright sounding pies, the PST7s are your slice!

[skills]

Hey friends, just wanted to tell you I got the bargain and in the meantime proudly own a 18" 2002 Crash.

[longgun]

Hey friends, just wanted to tell you I got the bargain and in the meantime proudly own a 18" 2002 Crash.

Congrats

[skills]

Congrats

Thanks!