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    Replaced my year old Evans coated G2's with new, Remo coated, Ambassadore X's on my Yamaha Tour Custom maples today. Remo's are a little thinner (12 ml. vs 2x7ml. or 14 ml.) so I hoped they would open up the Yamahas' sound. Also I want to see how long the coating lasts. I practice with them for a month, every other month and gig with them maybe 4 x /yr. The Evans still looked good but, once removed and hit with a stick, they had no tone. I guess their usefulness was really at an end! I did switch the 16" FT reso(original Yamaha/Remo clear) with a new Evans clear G2 I had on hand which shortened the FT resonance a little. It's still a big, booming thing!

    FYI: using the Drum Dial for quicker tuning, I found the Remos' numbers matched the Evans'. And found the 10" more difficult to tune to my liking than the 12."

    Anybody else use the Ambassadore X's? How long does the coating last?
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    Which heads do you prefer better and did they give you a more open sound.

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    I am using coated amb. on my Beech kit for over a year now and probably 20 gigs and they are still holding up although honestly I have not closely examined them in a while.

    I been looking hard at the amb. X's or the Vintage A's for my next head swap. I have never had a problem with coating not lasting long enough on any head yet.
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    Spider, they do sound more open- still trying things to the FT(it's really too open for me!) So far I like the Ambo-X's.
    SONOR 6 pc Special Edition 3007's red maple, old Pearl Brass 14x6 FF snare, Yamaha Tour Custom maple 8 pc., Tama 4 pc., honey amber B/B, Ludwig Supralite chrome 14x6.5 steel snare, Paiste, Saluda & Zildjian
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    My only experience with the Amb-X is on a maple snare. Made it ring like crazy. Did you experience that or was it just my drum or my tuning?

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    I'm using a coated amb x on my snare. The head is over a year old and the coating in the middle is smooth, but it's still white.
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    Quote Originally Posted by G-man View Post
    My only experience with the Amb-X is on a maple snare. Made it ring like crazy. Did you experience that or was it just my drum or my tuning?
    I don't use them as snare batter heads, I think they're a bit to thick.
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    Loaned out Slingerland upgraded 4 pc 1963 black, wrapped maple + 14" Pearl birch FT
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    Try a vintage Emperor on that FT. Or bite the bullet and go PS3. The vintage Emp is slightly thicker than the standard Emp and G2, so a slightly "warmer", shorter note.

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    other developments: while retuning the 10" I found one tension rod of the 6 could actually be removed and not change the tuning! Swapped tension rods made no dif. I didn't have this happen with the Evans head...tempted to replace it with the worn out Evans!
    (this drum never stays in tune, I noticed, even with added vaseline on the rods. I'm always tightening 2 rods after 15-20 min. of playing, something I don't have to do with my Sonor 10")

    Sundog, PS3's don't come in 16". Maybe X14?

    Right now I'm toying with swapping lugs from reso side to batter side. Reso rods don't seem to have a problem...
    SONOR 6 pc Special Edition 3007's red maple, old Pearl Brass 14x6 FF snare, Yamaha Tour Custom maple 8 pc., Tama 4 pc., honey amber B/B, Ludwig Supralite chrome 14x6.5 steel snare, Paiste, Saluda & Zildjian
    Loaned out Slingerland upgraded 4 pc 1963 black, wrapped maple + 14" Pearl birch FT
    The Almighty Speed King pedal, Speed Cobra, Sonor Single

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    Quote Originally Posted by slinglander View Post
    Replaced my year old Evans coated G2's with new, Remo coated, Ambassadore X's on my Yamaha Tour Custom maples today. Remo's are a little thinner (12 ml. vs 2x7ml. or 14 ml.) so I hoped they would open up the Yamahas' sound. Also I want to see how long the coating lasts. I practice with them for a month, every other month and gig with them maybe 4 x /yr. The Evans still looked good but, once removed and hit with a stick, they had no tone. I guess their usefulness was really at an end! I did switch the 16" FT reso(original Yamaha/Remo clear) with a new Evans clear G2 I had on hand which shortened the FT resonance a little. It's still a big, booming thing!

    FYI: using the Drum Dial for quicker tuning, I found the Remos' numbers matched the Evans'. And found the 10" more difficult to tune to my liking than the 12."

    Anybody else use the Ambassadore X's? How long does the coating last?
    I used the Ambassador X on my snares for quite some time...absolutely love them! You're right about the coating, though. It does seem to chip a bit sooner than I'd like to see. I've just switched over to the coated Control Sound X head for my snare. It's the same 12 mil thickness as the Ambassador X but with an added 5 mil reverse dot. So far, the coating seems far more durable. You may want to give one a try next time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich_in name only View Post
    I used the Ambassador X on my snares for quite some time...absolutely love them! You're right about the coating, though. It does seem to chip a bit sooner than I'd like to see. I've just switched over to the coated Control Sound X head for my snare. It's the same 12 mil thickness as the Ambassador X but with an added 5 mil reverse dot. So far, the coating seems far more durable. You may want to give one a try next time.

    Rich

    +1 A coated controlled sound is the best head so far for my Pork Pie metal snare. I Love it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slinglander View Post
    other developments: while retuning the 10" I found one tension rod of the 6 could actually be removed and not change the tuning! Swapped tension rods made no dif. I didn't have this happen with the Evans head...tempted to replace it with the worn out Evans!
    (this drum never stays in tune, I noticed, even with added vaseline on the rods. I'm always tightening 2 rods after 15-20 min. of playing, something I don't have to do with my Sonor 10")

    Sundog, PS3's don't come in 16". Maybe X14?

    Right now I'm toying with swapping lugs from reso side to batter side. Reso rods don't seem to have a problem...
    Tried lock washers and/or dab of Loc-Tite on each one?

    all the best...

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    little update: swapped 3 batter rods with reso tension rods seems to be working but the 10" head's coating is starting to come off. This after three days of use? Cr@#%%!p!

    As I stated earlier, the Evans 360's they replaced hardly showed any wear.
    SONOR 6 pc Special Edition 3007's red maple, old Pearl Brass 14x6 FF snare, Yamaha Tour Custom maple 8 pc., Tama 4 pc., honey amber B/B, Ludwig Supralite chrome 14x6.5 steel snare, Paiste, Saluda & Zildjian
    Loaned out Slingerland upgraded 4 pc 1963 black, wrapped maple + 14" Pearl birch FT
    The Almighty Speed King pedal, Speed Cobra, Sonor Single

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    Sling................

    It has been my experience with various snare batter heads that the Remo coating does not last as long as others.
    I have discovered that the Aquarian Super 2 lasts the longest.............I have not tried thinner Aquarian heads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slinglander View Post
    little update: swapped 3 batter rods with reso tension rods seems to be working but the 10" head's coating is starting to come off. This after three days of use? Cr@#%%!p!

    As I stated earlier, the Evans 360's they replaced hardly showed any wear.
    wow 3 days?, I know evan's last longer and all that but 3 days seems ridiculous. You may have gotten a bad one. I like evan's and aquarian head but to me Remo always sounds a little fuller, Just a matter of choice I guess. Contact Remo and show them pic and I bet they send you a new one.
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    Okay I have to know. What are you guys doing to make the coating come off. All of my snare heads are coated Ambassador or coated PS3 and I never, ever experience this, oh and by the way, I hit hard. I alternate with toms/floors, sometimes clear and sometimes coated, and again, I've never experienced this. So my question is, what the hell are you doing to make this happen.

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    Must be my 68 yr. old trad grip!
    I moved away from Remo snare heads years ago for the same reason.
    SONOR 6 pc Special Edition 3007's red maple, old Pearl Brass 14x6 FF snare, Yamaha Tour Custom maple 8 pc., Tama 4 pc., honey amber B/B, Ludwig Supralite chrome 14x6.5 steel snare, Paiste, Saluda & Zildjian
    Loaned out Slingerland upgraded 4 pc 1963 black, wrapped maple + 14" Pearl birch FT
    The Almighty Speed King pedal, Speed Cobra, Sonor Single

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    Quote Originally Posted by slinglander View Post
    Must be my 68 yr. old trad grip!
    I moved away from Remo snare heads years ago for the same reason.
    I should have put a 😜 at the end so you would know I was just razzing you 😜. I found the 16" PS3 on the Remo site, but it's a BD head, so it has a thicker 10mil zero ring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SunDog View Post
    I should have put a 😜 at the end so you would know I was just razzing you 😜.
    Razzing? Who says that any more? It's OK, tho, maybe I do hit harder?
    I switched my 12" to be the foremost"up-tom" and put the 10" in its place. Now we'll see if the 12" head shows as much wear and tear as the 10."
    SONOR 6 pc Special Edition 3007's red maple, old Pearl Brass 14x6 FF snare, Yamaha Tour Custom maple 8 pc., Tama 4 pc., honey amber B/B, Ludwig Supralite chrome 14x6.5 steel snare, Paiste, Saluda & Zildjian
    Loaned out Slingerland upgraded 4 pc 1963 black, wrapped maple + 14" Pearl birch FT
    The Almighty Speed King pedal, Speed Cobra, Sonor Single

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