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Thread: Decisions, Decisions, Decisions... Choosing a Snare and maybe more - Part II

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    Hi everyone, I still can't decide what snare to buy.
    The Luddy is not a Participant in the contest anymore, a little bit too much ring.
    I found two methods, to buy one (1) expensive snare for all styles of music or to buy two (2) less pricy snares.

    Possibility 1:
    Buying an expensive but good quality snare.

    Snares to choose from:

    1.) DW Collectors Maple 14x5" or 14x6" :

    I just like it's dry sound.


    2.) DW Collectors Black Nickel over Brass 14x5,5" or 14x6,5

    It's way ringier but it seems to be very versatile.

    3.) Sonor Prolite Brass 14x5 or 14x6

    Not as ringy as the NOB.



    DW Collectors Maple Pro and Cons:

    + great dry sound.
    + Craftmanship
    + features
    + Look


    - the Price
    - some say it wouldn't tune very good and non-versatile.


    DW Collectors NOB Pro and Cons:

    + Sound
    + Craftmanship (in most cases)
    + Look
    + Features

    - overtones
    - Price




    Sonor Prolite Brass Pro and Cons:

    + Sound
    + Look
    + Features

    - Price
    - Cases of unplayable Snares known.





    Pro and Cons of the Possibility:

    + great sounding and great quality snare
    - it maybe covers not all music styles I want to play with.
    - no money left for other things*




    Possibility 2:
    Buying two less pricy snares:


    Steel:
    Gretsch Taylor Hawkins Sig Snare 14x6,5"


    Wood:
    Mapex Black Panther Cherry Bomb 13x5,5"
    Mapex Black Panther Black Widow Snare 14x5,5"
    Tama Starclassic Maple Snare 14x5,5"



    The Gretsch has good Craftmanship and is already chosen if I really do that, so it's all about the wood snares.

    Pro:
    Sound.
    Price.


    Cons:
    All BP's are known to have scars on the round wooden circle, head and rim laying on.


    The Starclassic has actually no Cons.


    The big Point on the second method is that I have extra money to spend in other parts of gear*.


    The Styles I want to cover with are:
    Metal, Rockstyles, Hiphop, Pop and Jazz (Sticks and Brushes).



    *A few weeks ago I thought how cool it would be to have extra money for replacing gear I don't like.


    Hi hat stand:

    I currently use a Tama Iron Cobra 605 Series, to close the hats works (like known of Tama Pedals) very smooth but it has no plate, a leg is in the air and there's no possibility to get it on the floor + there's no option to make the spring a very little tighter so the hats stay closed if I want them to be.



    Model of choose:

    Tama Iron Cobra 805 Velo Glide or DW 5000 (too expensive at moment)



    Pedal:
    I have a Pearl Eliminator 2000B Single Pedal and its to chunky and I have an issue with the spring, I have to tighten it very hard if I want my footboard to hold Position, when I play its to hard for my taste.


    Model of Choose:

    Tama Rolling Glide or DW 5002 Double Pedal but what I can afford is probably only a Single Pedal.

    I'm not good with my foot at all but I find playing a Double Pedal sounds very cool and is more versatile cause you can play it as both, Single and Double.



    So, back to Snares:

    What is more recommendable - buying one expensive snare for all styles or two less pricy snares for the styles and having extra money + what of them wood snares should I get for the above mentioned styles?
    Yamaha Stage Custom Birch (CR):
    20,12,10 + 14x5,5" PDP Maple/Bubinga snare
    Tama hardware
    Remo drumheads
    Paiste cymbals

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    Your list of criteria kind of buried me but I got the gist. Personally I think you should have as high quality main snare as you can afford. My main is a dw Exotic Edge. At medium tension and half a moon gel right at the rim It is nice and dry played at the center of the head and somewhat ringy off center. If I want mega ring I can remove the gel and play off center. Remember ring is sometimes desirable. It may sound a bit obnoxious to you from the throne but out front it can make for great character and interesting sounds.
    Later on you'll get more snares anyway so get what you really want for your fundamental.
    Last edited by noreastbob; 05-15-2016 at 11:30 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noreastbob View Post
    Your list of criteria kind of buried me but I got the gist. Personally I think you should have as high quality main snare as you can afford. My main is a dw Exotic Edge. At medium tension and half a moon gel right at the rim It is nice and dry played at the center of the head and somewhat ringy off center. If I want mega ring I can remove the gel and play off center. Remember ring is sometimes desirable. It may sound a bit obnoxious to you from the throne but out front it can make for great character and interesting sounds.
    Later on you'll get more snares anyway so get what you really want for your fundamental.

    Before I replied you I was busy using a Translation App to get the meaning of "buried" (although it seems to be common), "gist" and "obnoxious" but I got the Rest.


    Budget is after saving not a Problem I'll theoretically be able to spend 840.-€ but I couldn't afford a edge.
    Yamaha Stage Custom Birch (CR):
    20,12,10 + 14x5,5" PDP Maple/Bubinga snare
    Tama hardware
    Remo drumheads
    Paiste cymbals

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    I own a 14x6 DW maple Collectors and 14x8 DW BNOB. Both are just outstanding. I used the maple as my working snare for fifteen years, playing a variety of styles. Got the "have to have one" thing this past year and bought the nickle over brass and I absolutely love that beast. You really can't go wrong with either, but I cast my vote for the 14x6.5 DW BNOB. It's a little ringy, but in a nice way, and it sounds insanely good.

    Collectors Black Ice Finishply
    10x8,12x9,15x12,16x14,20x18,24x16
    14X6 Collectors 10 and 6 snare Natural Satin
    14x8 Collectors Black Nickel over Brass

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    Popsicle stick, cut to size, works perfectly to suppress ring.

    Outside of my 1st set of drums, which were Kents with a wood snare, I have used nothing but metal snares. Black Beauty SS's or Supras, and a DynaSonic on the set of Rogers in our rehearsal studio.


    It makes no change in the sound of the drum other than stop the ring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickthedrummer View Post
    Popsicle stick, cut to size, works perfectly to suppress ring.

    Outside of my 1st set of drums, which were Kents with a wood snare, I have used nothing but metal snares. Black Beauty SS's or Supras, and a DynaSonic on the set of Rogers in our rehearsal studio.


    It makes no change in the sound of the drum other than stop the ring.
    Popsicle stick? What's that?
    Yamaha Stage Custom Birch (CR):
    20,12,10 + 14x5,5" PDP Maple/Bubinga snare
    Tama hardware
    Remo drumheads
    Paiste cymbals

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    Quote Originally Posted by skills View Post
    Popsicle stick? What's that?


    You're kidding...............right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickthedrummer View Post
    You're kidding...............right?
    Aw...cut him a break! No popsicles in Germany.
    SONOR 6 pc Special Edition 3007's red maple, old Pearl Brass 14x6 FF snare, Yamaha Tour Custom maple 8 pc., Tama 4 pc., honey amber B/B, Ludwig Supralite chrome 14x6.5 steel snare, Paiste, Saluda & Zildjian
    Loaned out Slingerland upgraded 4 pc 1963 black, wrapped maple + 14" Pearl birch FT
    The Almighty Speed King pedal, Speed Cobra, Sonor Single

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickthedrummer View Post
    You're kidding...............right?
    Quote Originally Posted by slinglander View Post
    Aw...cut him a break! No popsicles in Germany.
    Eisstiel, auf Deutsch

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickthedrummer View Post
    You're kidding...............right?
    They're only called Popsicles in North America (I had to look it up to find out what one was!).
    The rest of the world calls them Ice Lollies.
    Mapex Armory - Photon Blue
    Mapex VXB kit - Transparent Black
    Mapex & Pearl snares
    Paiste Alpha & RUDE cymbals
    Remo & Vater

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickthedrummer View Post
    You're kidding...............right?
    No, I'm not familiar with this word but whatever it is, it is probably available in Germany as well.
    Yamaha Stage Custom Birch (CR):
    20,12,10 + 14x5,5" PDP Maple/Bubinga snare
    Tama hardware
    Remo drumheads
    Paiste cymbals

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    Quote Originally Posted by skills View Post
    No, I'm not familiar with this word but whatever it is, it is probably available in Germany as well.
    They look like this


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    Or tongue depressors at med supply? A bit wider but should still work!
    SONOR 6 pc Special Edition 3007's red maple, old Pearl Brass 14x6 FF snare, Yamaha Tour Custom maple 8 pc., Tama 4 pc., honey amber B/B, Ludwig Supralite chrome 14x6.5 steel snare, Paiste, Saluda & Zildjian
    Loaned out Slingerland upgraded 4 pc 1963 black, wrapped maple + 14" Pearl birch FT
    The Almighty Speed King pedal, Speed Cobra, Sonor Single

    http://www.screaminmelinas.com
    http://www.facebook.com/DerailedRockers/

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    Quote Originally Posted by longgun View Post
    They look like this

    Yeah, we have it on our Ice Cream.
    Yamaha Stage Custom Birch (CR):
    20,12,10 + 14x5,5" PDP Maple/Bubinga snare
    Tama hardware
    Remo drumheads
    Paiste cymbals

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    I own a DW Nickel over Brass 6.5, and I highly recommend it. In fact, the NoB is the snare that changed my prior (uninformed / negative) opinion on metal snares generally.

    It does have some ringing overtones, but like someone already mentioned, that is sometimes desirable. I just place my wallet on the snare to tone down the ringing.

    You have the wonderful problem of choice. Good luck.

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