Results 1 to 18 of 18

Thread: Sorry for so many posts but, 18x14 kick or 18x16?

  1. #1

    User Info Menu

    Default Sorry for so many posts but, 18x14 kick or 18x16?

    I don't have much of any experience with an 18x16 kick, and I have a little with 18x14.

    If I understand correctly, 18x14 gives a little more snap/attack, where 18x16 will give some more depth of sound, less snap/attack.

    If I intend to use it primarily as a rock/fusion/jazz/latin, would you do 16 or 14 deep? Is deeper more versatile?

    thanks
    Too Much Stuff.

  2. #2

    User Info Menu

    Default Re: Sorry for so many posts but, 18x14 kick or 18x16?

    I prefer a little more depth. My preference would be 18x16

  3. #3

    User Info Menu

    Default Re: Sorry for so many posts but, 18x14 kick or 18x16?

    Quote Originally Posted by SpazApproved View Post
    I prefer a little more depth. My preference would be 18x16
    I thought the same thing until I put the right heads on my 22X14 Yamaha Live Custom. (oak)

    It's way beastier than I would have thought.

    Also, got owned by my 20X14 Starclassic B/B.

    It too has a nice solid thump without a lot of overtones.
    Signature here

  4. #4

    User Info Menu

    Default Re: Sorry for so many posts but, 18x14 kick or 18x16?

    18x16

  5. #5

    User Info Menu

    Default Re: Sorry for so many posts but, 18x14 kick or 18x16?

    Both will sound nice and there may not be a world of a difference between the two, but more of a slight trade off between the two. I would go for the 18x16. With an 18" kick you can get some added depth punch with head choice.
    -Tama Granstar II (12x11, 16x16, 22x16)
    -Yamaha 7000 Series (12x8, 13x9, 16x16 22x18)
    -Crush Sublime E3 (12x8, 16x14, 24x17)
    -Pearl Mixed Series kit (8x7, 10x8, 15x13, 20x14)
    -Brady Jarrah Ply 8x14
    -HHG Purpleheart/Cherry Stave 7x14
    -HHG Red Birch Stave 7x14
    -Pearl Masters MCX 5.5x14
    -Pearl Steel (Pre-Sensitone) 6.5x14
    -Pearl Vintage Professional Series 6.5x14
    -Tama Imperialstar Seamless Steel 6.5x14
    -Tama Soundworks Maple 6.5x14
    -Premier (African Mahogany with Beech Re-rings) 8x14
    -Remo Bravo II 5.5x14
    -OCDP Maple 6x14
    -Crush Aluminum 5.5x14
    -Crush 10 ply Maple 6x14
    -Trixon Birch 5.5x14
    -Wuhan Traditional Cymbals
    -Paiste 2002, 602,

  6. #6

    User Info Menu

    Default Re: Sorry for so many posts but, 18x14 kick or 18x16?

    I don't think you'd be able to hear a lot of difference between 14" & 16" depth. Probably notice a difference in feel more than sound. I love my 22x14, way more than my 22x18, but on a smaller 18" diameter, I'd probably go with the 16" depth. The 16x16 floor tom-to-bass conversions have much more beater bounce-back and take some getting used to. I think in this case (18" diameter) the added depth would be beneficial.
    Last edited by N2Bluz; 07-28-2016 at 11:27 AM.
    -Brian

    "Too many crappy used drum stuff to list"

    Play the SONG......not the DRUMS!!!

    "I think that feeling is a lot more important than technique. It's all very well doing a triple paradiddle - but who's going to know you've done it? If you play technically you sound like everybody else. It's being original that counts." ~ John Bonham

  7. #7

    User Info Menu

    Default Re: Sorry for so many posts but, 18x14 kick or 18x16?

    My kick began life as a 16x18 FT.

    I like it a lot.

    all the best...

  8. #8

    User Info Menu

    Default Re: Sorry for so many posts but, 18x14 kick or 18x16?

    I agree with feel being the biggest difference. 14" depth is my preferred depth for any bass drum, due to the head response with the beater.

  9. #9

    User Info Menu

    Default Re: Sorry for so many posts but, 18x14 kick or 18x16?

    Quote Originally Posted by Exotic Matter View Post
    I agree with feel being the biggest difference. 14" depth is my preferred depth for any bass drum, due to the head response with the beater.
    Agreed.
    But sometimes the longer drums can look cool in the smaller sizes.
    Trying both would be optimal of course.

  10. #10

    User Info Menu

    Default Re: Sorry for so many posts but, 18x14 kick or 18x16?

    The 16 may be more versatile. tighter for the jazz, and sill have a little more body for rock.

  11. #11

    User Info Menu

    Default Re: Sorry for so many posts but, 18x14 kick or 18x16?

    Quote Originally Posted by spazapproved View Post
    i prefer a little more depth. My preference would be 18x16
    +1
    Quote Originally Posted by rickthedrummer View Post
    There is intelligent life out there. The problem is that there isn't any here.

    -Mike

  12. #12

    User Info Menu

    Default Re: Sorry for so many posts but, 18x14 kick or 18x16?

    The plans for building the ISS wasn't as complicated as this.

  13. #13

    User Info Menu

    Default Re: Sorry for so many posts but, 18x14 kick or 18x16?

    Quote Originally Posted by rickthedrummer View Post
    The plans for building the ISS wasn't as complicated as this.
    Quote Originally Posted by rickthedrummer View Post
    There is intelligent life out there. The problem is that there isn't any here.

    -Mike

  14. #14

    User Info Menu

    Default Re: Sorry for so many posts but, 18x14 kick or 18x16?

    Quote Originally Posted by rickthedrummer View Post
    The plans for building the ISS wasn't as complicated as this.
    Warning, thread jacking is occurring as I type this....Oh wait it's me.


    For anyone who is intrigued by space flight and specifically the ISS you can put your zip code or city in the the search engine and this site will give you cool details about the ISS. Especially when you can see it in your area.

    http://iss.astroviewer.net/index.php
    Signature here

  15. #15

    User Info Menu

    Default Re: Sorry for so many posts but, 18x14 kick or 18x16?

    Quote Originally Posted by FlayOtters View Post
    Agreed.
    But sometimes the longer drums can look cool in the smaller sizes.
    Trying both would be optimal of course.
    Unfortunately, I cant try either, or find any sound clips of said drum! but I ended up ordering the 18x16. If you know of a video with this kick, starclassic maple, I'd love to hear it.. I only ever see the 22" kick.

    Quote Originally Posted by rickthedrummer View Post
    The plans for building the ISS wasn't as complicated as this.
    its true! I only have one chance to get it right. I don't think I can shave an 18x16 down to an 18x14... well I guess you could but i'm not sure if it would work well.
    Too Much Stuff.

  16. #16

    User Info Menu

    Default Re: Sorry for so many posts but, 18x14 kick or 18x16?

    Quote Originally Posted by FlayOtters View Post
    Agreed.
    But sometimes the longer drums can look cool in the smaller sizes.
    Trying both would be optimal of course.
    IMO I think "longer but smaller"kicks look too much like you're playing a tube.
    SONOR 6 pc Special Edition 3007's red maple, old Pearl Brass 14x6 FF snare, Yamaha Tour Custom maple 8 pc., Tama 4 pc., honey amber B/B, Ludwig Supralite chrome 14x6.5 steel snare, Paiste, Saluda & Zildjian
    Loaned out Slingerland upgraded 4 pc 1963 black, wrapped maple + 14" Pearl birch FT
    The Almighty Speed King pedal, Speed Cobra, Sonor Single

    http://www.screaminmelinas.com
    http://www.facebook.com/DerailedRockers/

  17. #17

    User Info Menu

    Default Re: Sorry for so many posts but, 18x14 kick or 18x16?

    I love playing an 18 x 14. Just my two cents. Had one for about 30 years. Sound guys always raised an eyebrow when they first heard it mic'd. Really easy to EQ and control. Getting ready to re-wrap one and go back to that great feel and thud.
    Proudly playing:
    Doc Sweeney Drums
    A bunch of snares
    A bunch of cymbals

    Off-Set double pedals

    I think I love to play the drums simply because you get to hit 'em!!!

  18. #18

    User Info Menu

    Default Re: Sorry for so many posts but, 18x14 kick or 18x16?

    Quote Originally Posted by slinglander View Post
    IMO I think "longer but smaller"kicks look too much like you're playing a tube.
    Now don't get me wrong, my bass drums are always 14" deep.
    On the other hand, I remember seeing a Zickos acrylic kit in a London drum shop back in the 70s, and the big long bass drum had that huge tube look; I did feel a small tingle in my pant leg (that would have been trouser leg at the time).

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •