It's often the tightness of your front head. Could you relax that any without losing the tone you like?
So when I play my small kick I get a lot of feedback from the beater and it ends up just bouncing on the head and inadvertently playing extra notes. I am guessing it has to do with airflow inside the kick.. so maybe a small port is my best option?
Would putting blankets/pillows in there help at all? I am trying to avoid porting because I like the tone I have right now.
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It's often the tightness of your front head. Could you relax that any without losing the tone you like?
Trial and error. The only way you are gonna find out is to try putting a small 2 inch thick pillow that barely touches the reso and batter head. My bass drum reso is not ported and that is the way I like it and it sounds great. My batter is a single PS3 which is tuned 1/2 turn over crease and my reso is a 2 ply Aquarian and it tuned 1 turn more than the batter and I get a nice deep boom sound and the pedal bounces pretty good. Experimenting is the best way.
Hmmmm have you tried loosening the spring tension on your pedal?
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It's going to be hard to fix that without impacting the tone. A port will definitely take care of it but you'll hear the difference. Pillows/stuffing might help some but you'll hear it. Loosening the heads will also change the tone. Do you bury your beater when playing, or use the bounce-back keeping the beater off the head?
So, how big IS this "small" kick? If it's a 16" or 18", then its gonna have a little bounce-back unless you tune it pretty darn loose. If it's not ported, then it's more of an internal pressure issue. I don't think adding anything inside will help. I've found the added control of an EMAD, Powerstroke, Superkick, etc. batter head will allow for some pretty loose tuning without sounding flappy.
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The front head is quite tight as I am going for that "hiphop" sound, but I guess I could try that.
It's not that tight as it is.
I do both depending... but at the moment I can't bury it at all without getting an extra 1-2 stroke buzzing.
18x16. I think the stock head is an evans with a control ring built in, not quite an emad but.. I don't want an emad
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I was having the same issue with my pedal on my 23" kick. I tried loosening and tightening heads. The only thing I found that helped was adjusting the beater angle and adjusting the spring tensions. It is no science to it, just time and patience. You will have to play with both and get them right if you have these adjustments.
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I would suggest venting the reso head but you may not get the desired hip-hop sound. The DW factory bass drum reso has 6 small vent holes (rather than a full port) punched into the top half of the head. This allows the air pressure to vent out but still keeping the non-ported sound. The pedal rebound it kept somewhat in check compared to a non-ported head and no spring tension adjustment was needed to my pedal to accommodate this type of design.
Last edited by late8; 02-06-2017 at 09:43 AM.
Just an idea: I was having the same problem. I wanted an unported reso because I like the rounder, livelier tone. But that bounce! So as an experiment I decided to try to port the batter head. It worked. Yes, I did loose a little resonance, but that was restored by using minimal muffling on the front head. The tone I want is still there. You might try this with a spare batter head.
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^I know a guy who also ports his batter head.
OR.......you could take a 2" hole saw and drill a few vent holes around the shell
-Brian
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"I think that feeling is a lot more important than technique. It's all very well doing a triple paradiddle - but who's going to know you've done it? If you play technically you sound like everybody else. It's being original that counts." ~ John Bonham
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