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    Do big sized drums sound better with big sized cymbals?

    And vice-versa?

    Seems like it would be odd to have a big set 26 14 16 18 with 13'' hats.
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    I've noticed a lot of pro drummers going to larger sizes. I can't remember who it is, but I read an article recently about a pro rock drummer who uses 20 and 22 inch rides as crash cymbals.
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    I know a local guy that uses those. His rig is so loud.. the cymbals are so abrasive 21's or 22's .... seems like overkill but they sound great for their music style
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    I've never heard a crash over 18" that sounded good.

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    I use my Zildjian 21 Sweet ride as a crash once in a while. I mean it is a crash/ride cmbal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickthedrummer View Post
    I've never heard a crash over 18" that sounded good.
    Oh man Rick... what rock have you been under?!
    haha j/k
    I have several crashes that I just LOVE that are 20" and one 21"

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpazApproved View Post
    Oh man Rick... what rock have you been under?!
    haha j/k
    I have several crashes that I just LOVE that are 20" and one 21"
    Way too big.

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    I guess it depends on the application. I’ve really grown to love my 13” hats. If it sounds good, it is good. Doesn’t matter the size. If you mic your drums, then no reason you can’t use whatever size hats & cymbals you want....as long as the fundamental pitch sounds good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rickthedrummer View Post
    Way too big.
    If I had a nickel . . .

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    I would never worry about who uses what or what size they use because it's all about the song and the individual making your own voice.

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    I just watched the Foo Fighters and Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers documentaries and while Dave Grohl's and Stan Lynch's rack toms look ridiculously big but you can't argue with the sound.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G-man View Post
    If I had a nickel . . .
    Yeah, so what would you do with it?

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    I went to a Jeff Hamilton jazz clinic a few months ago and he plays a bop kit with a 18" kick, 12" rack tom and 14" floor tom but his crash cymbals were actually ride cymbals (20" and 22"). His opinion, "Any good ride is crashable". That being said, I don't think size really matters as long as it fits the genre.

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    Jeff's set up:

    1 x Crescent 14" Hammertone Hi Hat Cymbals by Sabian - 755/1191g
    1 x Crescent 20" Hammertone Ride Cymbal by Sabian - 1641g
    1 x Crescent 22" Hammertone Ride Cymbal by Sabian - 2701g
    1 x Crescent 22" Hammertone Chinese Cymbal by Sabian - 2318g

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpazApproved View Post
    Oh man Rick... what rock have you been under?!
    haha j/k
    I have several crashes that I just LOVE that are 20" and one 21"
    I have cymbals that I really like, but loving them takes it to a whole new level.

    Is it within the realm of possibility that the large crash cymbals might account for your sticks looking like #2 pencils???

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    "Any good ride is crashable" I disagree.

    "I don't think size really matters as long as it fits the genre". I was told that decades ago, oddly enough, not by a drummer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by late8 View Post
    I went to a Jeff Hamilton jazz clinic a few months ago and he plays a bop kit with a 18" kick, 12" rack tom and 14" floor tom but his crash cymbals were actually ride cymbals (20" and 22"). His opinion, "Any good ride is crashable". That being said, I don't think size really matters as long as it fits the genre.

    10DE0B1E-D401-41ED-8E0B-95BB675A832F_zpscc6pdsda.jpg

    Jeff's set up:

    1 x Crescent 14" Hammertone Hi Hat Cymbals by Sabian - 755/1191g
    1 x Crescent 20" Hammertone Ride Cymbal by Sabian - 1641g
    1 x Crescent 22" Hammertone Ride Cymbal by Sabian - 2701g
    1 x Crescent 22" Hammertone Chinese Cymbal by Sabian - 2318g
    I'm squarely in this camp.

    I'm a bop sizer (18, 14, and 10 or 12)

    3 cymbals...15 hats 18 crash and 22 ride

    all the best...

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