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    Hey everyone

    live foldback/iem setups and the benefits/drawbacks from them. generally this is for drummers that have just started to play larger shows.

    I recommend using a foldback speaker or using iem's during band rehearsals if possible, this really helps when it comes to getting used to a stage sound and tuning your ears

    So a large benefit from knowing how to get a good foldback sound and iem mix is largely about communication with the sound engineer or with yourself so make sure you communicate clearly on what you want before you get on stage.

    best case) the venue supplies a second engineer just for foldback mixing, Worst case) there is no sound engineer and no beer ..

    As a standard the sound engineer or you will start with the kick drum, this is to get a control measure for the overall sound as this is generally the loudest and quickest transients to deal with.in this instance you should be giving a loud hit on the kick try for 100% velocity remember the engineer is looking for a peek volume. Make sure all drums are hit with quarter notes and they are clear accurate and at constant velocity, then you will be asked to play some time and play every drum and cymbal like you would playing a song. this is to see how the drums and cymbals sound when playing with dynamics in this instance still play clear and nothing fast.

    Now that is done, this is where you will get a chance to get a foldback or iem mix from the engineer .This part is crucial, make sure you don't flood or use up all your mix with kick drum I mention this because you can always ask for more later and when you play a groove you can adjust what its like with other elements . Repeat for the other drums, generally you don't need other drums unless you have iem's then you will need either a little bit of everything or the overheads depending on how loud the on stage sound is. in a stereo iem mix its ideal to have every drum, in a mono mix you generally only need one over head. now you can adjust other instruments into the mix and vocals to suit your drum mix.

    engineers can be reluctant to give you enough or they give you too much of a mix. this can result in not being able to hear anything or maxing out the gain structure and getting a sound that's not clear or overwhelmingly loud. Communicate with the engineer and let them know whats going on.

    Never use a iem without a headphone preamp and built in limiter, also in that regard dont setup a foldback speaker without setting up limiting gain structure , if you can't limit the sound then turn down the amp it self 75% rather than 90% output.

    In all instances you will need to adapt to different stage environments to get the most out of your show so be prepared.

    feel free to add to the discussion

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    What’s “foldback”?

    Never heard that term before.
    Does that mean a regular stage monitor setup?
    Last edited by N2Bluz; 07-05-2018 at 12:16 AM.
    -Brian

    "Too many crappy used drum stuff to list"

    Play the SONG......not the DRUMS!!!

    "I think that feeling is a lot more important than technique. It's all very well doing a triple paradiddle - but who's going to know you've done it? If you play technically you sound like everybody else. It's being original that counts." ~ John Bonham

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    Quote Originally Posted by N2Bluz View Post
    What’s “foldback”?

    Never heard that term before.
    Does that mean a regular stage monitor setup?

    its just the industry standard name for the speakers on the stage and the industry standard for drummers foldback is called a "Drum fill"

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    Got it.
    -Brian

    "Too many crappy used drum stuff to list"

    Play the SONG......not the DRUMS!!!

    "I think that feeling is a lot more important than technique. It's all very well doing a triple paradiddle - but who's going to know you've done it? If you play technically you sound like everybody else. It's being original that counts." ~ John Bonham

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