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    I am a guitarist and play drums to support my guitar playing. Have been playing drums on and off for 10 years. I have a Yamaha Rydeen 5 piece drum kit and Istambul Mehmet Samatya 4 piece cymbal set in my studio. I would like to upgrade the snare drum to a metal shell snare drum. I record mostly rock, blues and pop. Is there any good snare drums on a budget so I would not have to spend as much as a Supraphonic or Black Beauty?

    I was looking a the Yamaha recording custom (500 EUR) series but the price is very close to the Supraphonic (650EUR) and the Black Beauty (1000EUR) is even more expensive. Other alternatives is the black panther (400EUR) which is at the limit I would like to spend before I just give up and get a Ludwig. Second hand market here is next to non-existent. The Tama Sound lab (300EUR) seems to be a good priced, but how does it sound? Any other recommendations for a snare drum?

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    How much is 400EUR's in USA dollars?
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    My immediate reaction is go find a used Acro in a pawn shop.
    But I have a suspicion that option isn't available in Euro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricardo View Post
    My immediate reaction is go find a used Acro in a pawn shop.
    But I have a suspicion that option isn't available in Euro.
    My country, which is a tiny island there is not used market. If I import, I have to pay for shipping which would make buying more worth. If no local shop has the gear and I import new stuff I get free postage from one of the stores.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ex351d View Post
    My country, which is a tiny island there is not used market. If I import, I have to pay for shipping which would make buying more worth. If no local shop has the gear and I import new stuff I get free postage from one of the stores.
    Sounds like Spaz personally owns more snare drums than there is in an entire nation. Maybe he should start his own country. USSR.....the United Spaz Snare Republic
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    Quote Originally Posted by N2Bluz View Post
    Sounds like Spaz personally owns more snare drums than there is in an entire nation. Maybe he should start his own country. USSR.....the United Spaz Snare Republic
    hahahahaha! And now that I started building a couple I'm out to take over the world!
    I don't think 50 snares drums is to much to ask for is it?!

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    Acrolites are cheap and sound great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickthedrummer View Post
    How much is 400EUR's in USA dollars?
    about 470, but stuff here is generally more expensive especially imported stuff.

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    Ludwig Supralite. Fantastic sound and cheap.
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    "Too many crappy used drum stuff to list"

    Play the SONG......not the DRUMS!!!

    "I think that feeling is a lot more important than technique. It's all very well doing a triple paradiddle - but who's going to know you've done it? If you play technically you sound like everybody else. It's being original that counts." ~ John Bonham

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    Are used Ludwig LM-400 Supraphonics available in your area?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dangermoney View Post
    Are used Ludwig LM-400 Supraphonics available in your area?
    no, there is only 1 snare drum for sale, but it is a maple snare.

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    Get the Pork Pie patina brass snare drum

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpazApproved View Post
    Get the Pork Pie patina brass snare drum
    not available locally or at the local stores I frequently buy from

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    Can you get REVERB to ship to you?

    Here is a nice ACRO right here..........................

    https://reverb.com/item/12996817-vin...m-100-original
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpazApproved View Post
    Get the Pork Pie patina brass snare drum
    I almost pulled the trigger on one of those today. I have some rebate credit at an on-line retailer (after spending $2500 on a new PA system). I can get a new PP Brass Patina 13x7 for about $100 out of pocket.
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    "Too many crappy used drum stuff to list"

    Play the SONG......not the DRUMS!!!

    "I think that feeling is a lot more important than technique. It's all very well doing a triple paradiddle - but who's going to know you've done it? If you play technically you sound like everybody else. It's being original that counts." ~ John Bonham

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    Quote Originally Posted by N2Bluz View Post
    I almost pulled the trigger on one of those today. I have some rebate credit at an on-line retailer (after spending $2500 on a new PA system). I can get a new PP Brass Patina 13x7 for about $100 out of pocket.
    Go for it! they sound good! I'm less than an hour drive from Pork Pie drums.

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    I'll just buy one and ship it out lol :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpazApproved View Post
    I'll just buy one and ship it out lol :P
    that would be great! but apart from shipping, I have to make sure I do not have problems with customs

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpazApproved View Post
    I'll just buy one and ship it out lol :P
    that would be great!

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    Used acrolite vs new supralite?

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    Iv been playing a Yamaha recording custom Aluminum 14x6.5 for the last year and it has slowly replaced every other snare I have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by itchie View Post
    Iv been playing a Yamaha recording custom Aluminum 14x6.5 for the last year and it has slowly replaced every other snare I have.
    I am considering getting the 5.5 version. I am really impressed with that snare ...

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    Seems like I should look into importing a used Acrolite. Is the Black Galaxy Acrolite just as good as the regular Acrolite or does the coating ruin the drum?
    Last edited by ex351d; 07-24-2018 at 01:35 PM.

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    If you absolutely have to have a metal snare drum, pick up anything you find where the strainer, lugs and hoops are in good shape. Hint, Steel will be bright, Aluminum will be more muted and brass will and can sound as good as any wood drum on the market, according to my experiences with the different brands.

    Change out the heads and your choice of heads will determine how good it sounds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bish View Post
    If you absolutely have to have a metal snare drum, pick up anything you find where the strainer, lugs and hoops are in good shape. Hint, Steel will be bright, Aluminum will be more muted and brass will and can sound as good as any wood drum on the market, according to my experiences with the different brands.

    Change out the heads and your choice of heads will determine how good it sounds.
    I'd like to get a metal drum only because the wooden ones seem to have a lot of texture. I am looking for more punch than texture. But I am asking as I do not wish to buy something that is not fit for my uses. I really like the sound of copper and copper alloys. I haven't pulled the trigger on these as I suspect that I should go with Aluminium for a nice punchy tone as copper have a lot of texture too. Also, the supraphonic sounds really punchy but could be a bit over the top, the Acrolite sounds like it is dialed back. I am not going to record metal music, I do not want to sound like a rifle shot. Something that goes well with pop, blues and some rock.

    I have nowhere to try snares locally I have to rely on online vids. From my guitar experience, the sound of gear trough a mic does no justice to some of the better gear. If you have something great, with just a dynamic mic it just sounds OK but not as huge as in real life.

    Then there is the other consideration. I'm an Electric guitar player, my first acoustic had a cedar top. In the stores it sounded so warm and full, it sounded way better than instruments 3 times its price. After my first couple of recordings, I found out it is so dark that it muddies the mix. Ended up buying a spruce top guitar (which is the more common wood). I am asking here so that I do not be the idiot who buys the piece of gear that I think it sounds good, just like I did with the acoustic guitar. Then end up not using it as it is not the right tool for my needs.

    What skins would you recommend? I use remo single plys. coated top and clear bottom on all drums with some moon gel

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