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    Can't find a whole lot of info about these cymbals. What I do see is almost universally good. I currently use aax stage hats and want something darker and drier but not at the expense of volume/cut.

    In my YouTube searches I found the byzance dark to really sound like what I'm after, followed by the extra dry...

    There is a pair of (Ibrahim) Diril Primitive 15's available for a decent price they are a copy of the Byzance extra dry from the guys who developed them for Meinl!

    I'm having one of those moments of GAS indecision, ordering online. It's an attractive price but I hate the idea of not liking them if they're too dry! Any input to offer?
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    Ask them about their return policies... that's about all I can offer. Never heard of the name.. Will look at them sometime
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    Well I caved and ordered them, should be here Tuesday or Wednesday. It will be very interesting to say the least. I just don't want the dark/dry character to translate into getting buried in a mix! This should be the polar opposite to the AAX Stage hats I have now...
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    Seems to be an expensive cymbal.
    Someone has been trying to sell an 18 inch ride for nearly a year at $300 bucks and he just lowered his price.
    Murat Diril hi hats are $375
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    These are made by Ibrahim Diril FWIW.

    I also snapped up a pair of used HHX Groove Hats on Monday because a bargain came up locally. It was a big improvement over the AAX Stage hats.

    Just got the 15" Diril Primitive pair tonight in and played for about 20 minutes (kids in bed). I recorded the difference with my 14" Groove Hats so I could listen back using HQ recording app on my Android phone.

    HUGE difference, it will take some getting used to. Oddly enough, I like the Groove hats better when playing but recorded the Primitives take the cake. Tons more character: FAT! and complex. The cut is more pronounced than I expected and the volume is not bad. The Groove hats sound a bit harsh on the recording. The Dirils have a voice that sounds like decades of chain smoking... Feel is way different as my strokes and foot pressure have to be altered to get a desired effect. That extra 1" changes things man! The seller let me pick any top & bottom combination of the 4 pairs he had so I went with the heaviest of each since I was scared to have too low a pitch and they might not cut, get buried since they're so dry/dark. The Groove Hat bottom is actually heavier than the Diril bottom which is 1304 g. Groove top is lighter than the Diril though (1041 g). Yeah I'm a newbie but it's pretty cool to hear such a big difference in tones. Safe to say the AAXs are up for sale. I'll play both more before deciding which to keep (maybe both).
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    That's the issue of buying online for cymbals... you never get to truly hear them until they are yours. . .
    But if you did some reading and some sound clip listening and you like what you see and hear, go for it!
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    I imagine one of the biggest adjustments with hi-hats is going from a smaller pair to a larger one? I don't hear about a lot of players rocking 15" hats all that often.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Russ View Post
    I imagine one of the biggest adjustments with hi-hats is going from a smaller pair to a larger one? I don't hear about a lot of players rocking 15" hats all that often.
    Man it's not easy at all! Like I wrote earlier the feel is quite different, the Dirils feel sloppy. I notice the 2 cymbals don't align well, the offset always seems to be more than the 14's I had before (like 1/4-3/8" where you might normally see 1/8"). Doesn't matter if I back the tilt screw all the way out. The dirtier tone and wider diameter make it seem really sloppy but when I listen back to the recording, it sounds fantastic! Sounds like I'm complaining but these hats are also very expressive. I think the adjustment will take a bit of time. I notice they sound better with heavy sticks.

    I went back & forth with the Groove hats yesterday and I like them a lot. They are terrific but have more high end and stick definition. Recorded, that comes off as slightly harsh by comparison but in person I don't hear that. I still need to record both pairs with my full mic setup. I was hoping there would be a clear winner so I could sell one pair off and recoup some money but it looks like I may have to hang on to both for a while.
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