I wasn't even planning on getting these but with a trade-in and a discount I couldn't pass it up! $200.00 off, they are new. I traded my modified Speed ' Demon ' Cobras that I did last year, but hey, Tricks man! The DW equivelant pedals were sitting right next to them on the counter and IMHO the tricks were alot better built and designed. These Tricks are bullet proof! lol. I kept the Trick drive shaft and the 2 Trick beaters off the Tama's. DSC02040.jpgDSC02041.jpgDSC02042.jpg