Hello, so I was wondering if there was a use of having a crash-ride cymbal along with a normal ride cymbal? Like is there a noise difference? Should I have both or just one of them?
Hello, so I was wondering if there was a use of having a crash-ride cymbal along with a normal ride cymbal? Like is there a noise difference? Should I have both or just one of them?
There is no firm answer anyone can give to this. It simply depends on what you like and how you play. There are some drummers who use ride cymbals only and have no crashes. There are others who have no ride at all. There are others who will have a ride with a combination of other cymbals - this is probably the majority.
Additionally, it will depend on how the crash/ride and ride sound together and whether you like them and feel they compliment each other. When I was a younger, much less experienced, drummer I'd go cymbal shopping and pick a cymbal in isolation. I'd feel the cymbal sounded great in the shop but when played with the rest of my setup, it simply didn't work. Now, where at all possible, I'll always take my current cymbals to the store and audition cymbals alongside my current ones; many drum stores have rooms with drums and stands set up specifically for this purpose.
So, bottom line - only you can decide if a crash/ride would work with a ride - there are no hard and fast rules.
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I actually never considered doing this, but now that you mention it, I think that's a fantastic idea.
I've only gotten so lucky that what I've bought works with my kit (partly because while I'd be drumming, I'd be thinking "Man, this would sound so much better if this particular cymbal was crisper" and then go looking for that sound) but I think I'm going to do this from now on, when I buy cymbals.
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Last edited by Olimpass; 02-22-2020 at 07:25 PM.
I've never heard a crash/ride that I like.
Now I have heard good rides that can be crashed... and I have heard good crash cymbals that can be used as a ride
But for a cymbal to be made specifically as a "crash/ride" have always been GARBAGE.
I tell all my students and their parents to stay away from them like the plague.
But a crash and buy a ride, don't buy a crash/ride
My very 1st cymbal was and is a Zildjian 18" crash ride. While it's true it's not the best at either it has the sweetest richest bell I've ever heard. It's permanantly parked about 6" above and overlapping my 16" FT and is used mostly on endings hit from the bottom while trash can rolling the tom.
I just got my first crash ride, an 18 A Zildjian. I got it mostly to cut down on the number of cymbals to bring to gigs with small stage areas.
I did find that it's not the best crash or ride. I think its best use is if you want do a ride and instead of the ping sound using the tip of the stick, you want more of a crashy wash sound hitting the edge of the cymbal. In that way it's more of an effect cymbal really. It doesn't work well as the main ride cymbal of your set up.
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I have a 19" Zildjian Z3 Thrash Ride to my right and never ride it. Love it as a crash though. Always sounds good (to me).
Was thinking about getting another one for awhile. Excellent for loudness
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I really like using one cymbal as a crash and a ride, one cymbal as a crash, and hats. One of the fun things about drumming is that one can do whatever one wants. If you want two different ride sounds, use a ride and a crash-ride. For MANY years, I wanted a pingy ride, but now I prefer a washy ride. At church I play an HHX Evolution Ride, and I ride and crash it. Our church is really small, so I do not play very loud. On my set I am using an AAX 19" X-plosion Crash as a ride and a crash. Do whatever you want. Peace and goodwill.
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