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    Hello DC Friends............

    Welcome to the fastest economic shock ever recorded; I've been tracking econ-data for 40 years and I've never seen numbers like this........the 1st qtr. GDP growth is now downgraded to -3.9% (and this includes good numbers for January & February) while the 2nd qtr. estimate is now -26.8%. And of course, with the norm of social distancing, the hospitality sector is hardest hit.........including but not limited to transportation, sporting events, hotels, restaurants, and sadly, BARS & CLUBS. The recession begins now, and hopefully there is recovery at the end of the calendar year.

    As we all know, some of these businesses live on the "cash-flow-edge" and will have no chance of survival during this pandemic.
    My focus here is on something we all share, which is LIVE MUSIC VENUES.

    Sadly, live music gig opportunities have been on the decline for many years. In my community, the biggest, best, and oldest (44 years) club in town decided to shut down about one year ago, which left a noticeable void in our gig-calendar. In our search to continue with bookings, we cannot (and will not) find the type of place to which we were accustomed...........it was our HQ for six years.
    There are a few other venues locally which are gig options but I'm afraid their future is questionable.
    My concern for us club-gigging musicians is that the pandemic will be another hit to the market where there may be little or no recovery.
    Bands that live on the private contract circuit (corporate parties, weddings, etc.) may be the only path.........I've lived on that before too.

    I wish everyone a joyous Easter weekend and I hope the outlook for your band is better than what we are facing.........discuss.
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    With everyone stuck at home, I foresee a possible baby boom. Not what we need right now.

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    This entire pandemic is more than arguably nature correcting the population.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricardo View Post
    Hello DC Friends............

    Welcome to the fastest economic shock ever recorded; I've been tracking econ-data for 40 years and I've never seen numbers like this........the 1st qtr. GDP growth is now downgraded to -3.9% (and this includes good numbers for January & February) while the 2nd qtr. estimate is now -26.8%. And of course, with the norm of social distancing, the hospitality sector is hardest hit.........including but not limited to transportation, sporting events, hotels, restaurants, and sadly, BARS & CLUBS. The recession begins now, and hopefully there is recovery at the end of the calendar year.

    As we all know, some of these businesses live on the "cash-flow-edge" and will have no chance of survival during this pandemic.
    My focus here is on something we all share, which is LIVE MUSIC VENUES.

    Sadly, live music gig opportunities have been on the decline for many years. In my community, the biggest, best, and oldest (44 years) club in town decided to shut down about one year ago, which left a noticeable void in our gig-calendar. In our search to continue with bookings, we cannot (and will not) find the type of place to which we were accustomed...........it was our HQ for six years.
    There are a few other venues locally which are gig options but I'm afraid their future is questionable.
    My concern for us club-gigging musicians is that the pandemic will be another hit to the market where there may be little or no recovery.
    Bands that live on the private contract circuit (corporate parties, weddings, etc.) may be the only path.........I've lived on that before too.

    I wish everyone a joyous Easter weekend and I hope the outlook for your band is better than what we are facing.........discuss.

    Rick, I agree with everything you say but I choose to stay on the optimistic side of the fence. We bounce back, we always do.

    On the music side, clubs have been closing for decades. 1/2 the clubs we played from 1970 to 2005 are gone.


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    This entire pandemic is more than arguably nature correcting the population.
    Mother Nature is doing that as a double blind test.

    Quote Originally Posted by Olimpass View Post
    With everyone stuck at home, I foresee a possible baby boom. Not what we need right now.
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    We are in a fickle time period, for sure. In my area the only bar gigs are jams, and a few lucky bands from the jam get to perform at the local yearly festival. There are some street parties as well, but they don't pay, either. There are two bars I know of who may never open again after this. I think I know of the location that Ricardo is speaking of because that description matches a location in Little Rock that closed down last year.

    My boss plays the stock market quite often, so I will yield to what he has stated about the situation. He stated he fully understands we have to keep people safe, but we also can't afford to allow our economy to crash. At some point we are going to have to work to restart the economy, or we are going to lose it.
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    Look at vegas.. a total ghost town .. crazy... the cure is becoming worse than the disease
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    Quote Originally Posted by slinky View Post
    Look at vegas.. a total ghost town .. crazy... the cure is becoming worse than the disease
    I think a lot of people are starting to adopt that mind set. Some are even acting on it. Can't say I blame them.
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    Yeah this is a weird time for sure. I was walking in the supermarket Sunday and an announcement came over the PA system to maintain 6' of distance and not to browse too long. I felt like I was trapped in a bad "B" movie with Rowdy Roddy Piper. (dating myself on that one : ). I do not know about your specific neck of the woods but here in NH people are getting antsy and seeing more and more cars and people out as the weather warms. If this lasts much longer than 1st week of May I see alot of people breaking the "rules" and mingling. I just quit my Band a few weeks back and looking forward to not gigging for a while if ever again but not going to quit drumming. The scene around here will be the same if not better as a lot of people cannot wait to get out and see friends and listen to some music and dance. We have a very good scene here kept alive by Mostly American Legions but there are quite a few bars hiring as well. At least there were.
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    yeah if this virus doesn't kill you... it could bankrupt you instead.
    it's a sad sad scenario that is 100% true
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    I’m guessing things around here will be sketchy at best for bands in the next year. We were lucky to pull $350 out of a club/bar gig before. When this is over, I suspect it will be worse. Regardless, it’s in our blood. We’ll continue to play, even if it’s just a “get together and jam” once a month.
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    I'm a self employed painting contractor. In Maine we were given the stay at home order in early April it currently extends through May 15th. I had already stopped working on March 20th because all my scheduled jobs were in peoples homes. April 27th I'll be starting back up because the state of Maine can't seem to figure out how to employ the unemployment payments for self employed people so I need to start making money again. Fortunately I'll be doing exterior jobs only which require no contact with other people. Also my job falls under construction and it's on the essential list in my state.

    I have a bottle of alcohol in my Jeep, when I get my paint at the paint store I call in the order and they leave it on a table outside for pick up , I wipe every thing down with alcohol as I load it in my jeep. this **** is real people , don't think for a second it's just the flu. Stay safe.

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    This whole thing has been pretty darn wild to me.
    I was called back to the US because I'm immunocompromised and my family wanted me to be in a situation where bed availability was higher. So I had to pack a bag right then and get on the next flight I could to Chicago. During that trip, I found myself watching the entire London night tube shut down for the first time that night. It was both pretty scary and surreal. I was told midway through my journey to take buses to the airport. I was even scanned personally by the CDC when I got to Chicago!

    Since then, things have been laying relatively low here, as my dad works from his room. Universities have become far more relaxed in how students get things in (my own basically guaranteed the degree to anyone graduating this year), and we've been making some changes to the house. As part of getting one of our bathrooms repaired (otherwise the floor of it would become too loose and break), we're moving things around, getting rid of a lot of junk.

    The other part of this is that we're putting together a music studio, because we've got the stuff for it. So, I've begun overhauling my kit and grabbing my dad's older keyboards (one of which is a digital 80s synthesizer) to prepare for that. I'd love to record something there, possibly even make an album of sorts. It was initially conceived as an idea so I could put together music for animation, but it's clear we won't stop there. Dad's wanted this for a very long time.
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