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    i've always wondered if it's really oil inbetween a 2 ply head (like pinstripes or emporers). i've heard industry people say that it's not but it sure looks like oil. does anyone know or has anyone ever taken it apart to see?
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    I think it has to do with the way the light refracts. Somewhat like a prism making rainbows. I have taken apart a dualply drum head. Completly dry.

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    I've heard that too, though I've never taken one apart like you have. I still find it hard to believe. I mean when you see oil on the road, it has that same multi-color look. So one would think that there's some oil in there to decrease friction or something.

    Oh well...

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    the truth shall never be revealed!!
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    I beleave it's a VERY thin "layer" of oil in the hydrolic heads.
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    What would oil do anyway?

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    i think they are referring to the crazy rainbow color in plastic heads. ugh my toms on my old set are all warped.
    its gross and i get a huge dose of that oil-y look
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    The oil is just another added dampening part of the head. Takes all overtones out of the drum. There nice if you mic up your drums all the time. If you do not mic your drums, then stick with 2 ply or ebony at the most. You need some overtones to cut thru the mix.

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    Evans hydrolic heads have oil in between the plys they claim. I don't know for sure. I do know the bass heads sound fantastic! You don't have to use pillows or blankets to get rid of overtones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baw_Drummer
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    Besides... how many licks does it take to get to the Tootsie Roll center of a Tootsie Pop?

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    I played Evans Hydraulics on an old Slingerland set in the late '80s and early '90's. There was indeed a small amount of what looked like mineral oil between the two plies, and it was supposed to cut down on the "ring" sounds you sometimes get when you play with rock sticks (5B's, for example). To me, they had a great deep sound, but there wasn't a whole lot of demand for them when I bought mine...may have been a marketing gimmick since you don't hear of them anymore....



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    I remember those hydraulic heads!!!! You could get red or blue. I think I stil have one 8 or 10" red one that a friend gave me. They weren't a gimmick, trends come and go - that's all. They were more popular in the mid 80's. I almost put a blue set on my blue Slingerlands...
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    I still see blue ones for sale all over the place. They look pretty cool 'till you hit them a few times.
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    Evans still make them in clear or blue. I am thinking of trying them but worry they may take away too much of the natural drum sound. If you were miking up a kit all the time they would be great.
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    I use Evans Hydraulics and absolutely love 'em. The is indeed a thin layer of clear oil between the ply's. Not only does this give them a deeper sound, but they are tough as crap. I hit really hard and have had mine a year with no dents, only scuff marks. They do take a little of the ring out without having to use zero rings. (although sometimes I still do, it just depends on what I'm playing). Great heads.

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    Yeah, DSD, you got that right--those Evans heads were tougher than... and they sounded tougher than...

    'nuff said...
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    most people seem to buy remo pinstripes these days but i love the evans heads ....i`m now looking to replace mine any recomendations ???

    dave

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    Evnas Ec2 (edge control 2) are nice, I want to try weatherkings though.

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    ive got evans EC2 on my low end toms and my bass drumm but one ply remo skins on my other toms and sadly no plys on my cymbals... XD
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    I use Pinstripes on my concert toms and a powerstroke# on my snare
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    Quote Originally Posted by bongobro
    I played Evans Hydraulics on an old Slingerland set in the late '80s and early '90's. There was indeed a small amount of what looked like mineral oil between the two plies, and it was supposed to cut down on the "ring" sounds you sometimes get when you play with rock sticks (5B's, for example). To me, they had a great deep sound, but there wasn't a whole lot of demand for them when I bought mine...may have been a marketing gimmick since you don't hear of them anymore....



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    The Evans hydraulics are still around. I have a set of them that I use when I'm playing the heavier rock/metal stuff, but most of the time I use the G2 coated heads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drumvistator
    I think it has to do with the way the light refracts. Somewhat like a prism making rainbows. I have taken apart a dualply drum head. Completly dry.



    According to Roy Burns of Aquarian, this is caused by trapped air where a 2 ply drum head has separated, and it reflects the light...



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