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    I got this cymbal at the church this weekend. They were gonna toss it in the can. It has the Zildjian stamp. I didn't measure it but it looks to be 20" and has a LOT of wash in it. It is keyholed pretty bad but I put a Grombal in it and it is good to go. See the second picture for that. Someone tell me what I got here and how much it would go for. Im gonna sell it and give the money to the youth group. Thanks.



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    can you post a closer view of the stamp?

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    I would say it looks like a Zildjian Avedis series given the lathing pattern, but I am confused by the holes in the bow. Do you think those are original, or were they drilled post sale?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pastor_bob View Post
    I would say it looks like a Zildjian Avedis series given the lathing pattern, but I am confused by the holes in the bow. Do you think those are original, or were they drilled post sale?
    They look original PB. CC I will try to get a pic of the stamp for ya. I think PB is dead on about the older Avedis.
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    It is an older Zildjian ride that has been modified with a rubber grommet to compensate for the key holing. looks to be drilled out and put in. the holes around the outer edge are for rivets which are no longer there so I say it is a zildjian sizzle cymbal that has its rivets drilled out.

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    Here ya go CC

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    I'd say early to mid 1960s zildjian sizzel cymbal. also real popular in the 60s.

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    I failed to mention that if that were my cymbal I would put the rivets back in and us it for what it was intended for. It would be a cool effect cymbal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawgkikker View Post
    It is keyholed pretty bad but I put a Grombal in it and it is good to go.
    The grommet is a Grombal which is made to prevent keyholes. Unfortunately I got the cymbal after it was keyholed. I wonder how they got the rivets out without damaging the cymbal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawgkikker View Post
    The grommet is a Grombal which is made to prevent keyholes. Unfortunately I got the cymbal after it was keyholed. I wonder how they got the rivets out without damaging the cymbal.
    I have seen them before and it appears you can get them out with a pair of side cutter/ wire cutters, or grind the heads off with a dremal or drill and abrasive wheel. they are easy to re-install should you decide too!

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    Looks like my cymbal, Dave. Got mine in 1965 and had it drilled for sizzles...8 holes. How many are in yours? You describe the Wash very well...that's why I don't use mine to much anymore. However, a piece of tape here and there on the underside does help. Is your cymbal warped on the outer edge...kind of looks that way in the picture.

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    Wow good eyes Frank. It has some slight warping. I think the light makes it looked worse than it is. There is some residue on the underside where someone had duct tape on it. I may get some rivets and see what she sounds like.
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    I was looking at the keyhole and the grombal (?) you put in... does keyholing affect the overall sound of any cymbal? sorry for the newbie question.
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    my schools jazz band has one of these its real nice for some stuff but the teacher decided since im the only one who ever uses it and i cant be in jazz band he was gonna sell it (i beged him for it but he refused to give it to me but offered to sell it for 500) he made about 700 with it on ebay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rubb3rduck View Post
    I was looking at the keyhole and the grombal (?) you put in... does key holing affect the overall sound of any cymbal? sorry for the newbie question.
    Key holing does not effect the way the cymbal sounds, only the way it reacts on the stand when it is struck. Sometimes when a key holed cymbal is struck they will move allot more than is desirable. The Grombal I suspect helps the cymbal return to normal movement and playability.

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    Yes backtodrum is correct. The Grombal's primary use if to prevent keyholes and cracks. They work great by the way. But I put one in this cymbal since it was already keyholed and it works great. Keeps the cymbal balance so to speak.
    Dave


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    Quote Originally Posted by fiacovaz View Post
    Looks like my cymbal, Dave. Got mine in 1965 and had it drilled for sizzles...8 holes. How many are in yours? You describe the Wash very well...that's why I don't use mine to much anymore. However, a piece of tape here and there on the underside does help. Is your cymbal warped on the outer edge...kind of looks that way in the picture.
    LOL................Frank you most shop the same stoe I do cause I have one just like it .

    Gotta love those classic Ludwigs and Zildjians .

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