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    Hi,

    Having limited time to practice, I've worked out a strict schedule to cover the moves a beginner should learn. Included in this is time spent on the drum pad doing rudiments. Of the 40 rudiments which ones should I concentrate on and are there any that I can forget about?

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    Paul.

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    My teacher has me starting off on singles, doubles, and perididdles. These seem to be the core rudiments. Be sure to get a metronome and do them along to that! Perfect time is a HUGE part of doing them. I personally do them flat with no accenting on my drum pad then move to my set and try different accents and play along to music.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uhslax24 View Post
    My teacher has me starting off on singles, doubles, and perididdles. These seem to be the core rudiments. Be sure to get a metronome and do them along to that! Perfect time is a HUGE part of doing them. I personally do them flat with no accenting on my drum pad then move to my set and try different accents and play along to music.
    UHSLAX has it, I would add flams to that list. All the other rudiments are combinations of singles, doubles, Paradiddles and Flams.
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    The only thing I would add here other than to say that paradiddles and flams will do a great deal for your playing is that you practice these with the proper form. Single paradiddle - RLRR LRLL - RH stroke comes from above and stays down while LH plays and immediately raises leaving the RR to be played as tap strokes. Same format for LH paradiddle. Visually, one hand is always raised while the other plays. Practice slowly to get comfortable with it. On the drum set, it will then be so much easier to play these and various combinations of paradiddles without getting the hands tripped up. Proper form of all Rudiments is vital.

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    The one's that don't make you want to throw your kit out the window

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    The reverse double pataflafla-madiddle-triddle. Don't go near that one!
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    As stated above, don't worry about anything beyond single-stroke rolls, double-stroke rolls, paradiddles and flams for now...
    I have known some fantastic drummers who never made it past those...

    Then move on to the triple-stroke paraflamadingdangdiddley-dos with double accented grace strokes on the thingamajigs!

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    Quote Originally Posted by drummer View Post
    The reverse double pataflafla-madiddle-triddle. Don't go near that one!
    Oh Yeah! Don't go near it, that one put me in the hospital for days

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    Quote Originally Posted by drummer View Post
    The reverse double pataflafla-madiddle-triddle. Don't go near that one!
    that sounds like a desert!
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    I have to agree with pretty much everyone else. I just recently started taking lessons and my teacher has me doing single stroke roll, double stroke roll, and the paradiddle (along with a few paradiddle variations).

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    All them and a double parradiddle, that will help you out when you come across a 6/8 beat.

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    Start making up rudiments with other rudiments tbh.

    Like, the 5 stroke roll or whatever, it's usually RLRLR or RRLLR or something, make it into a paradiddle like RLRRL and accent the first two notes or just the lefts.

    Play about, expand the way you look at them. You don't need to learn them all unless you really want to show off.
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    Your ability to play certain music will only be limited by your understanding and control of the rudiments. They are there for a reason peeps.
    There are no shortcuts im afraid, sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
    yes start with singles doubles and paradiddles of course but do not forget the others if you want to fully master this ancient spiritual art form !! hey swd you are influencing me dude.

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    FLAMADIDDLE

    But seriously, I dont think anyone has mentioned 5 and 9 stroke rolls. Paradiddles with a moving accent certainly helped me - putting accents in different places helps change the feel and the ...Grooove
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    but lets not confuse the guy, for now he should be starting off with single and double and paradiddle for the first couple of months then move on to the 5's 6's 7's etc
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    I agree that eventually he should learn the other rudiments, if you want to be a well rounded drummer, but as Livewire says get the easy ones down first.
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    I like the sound of ratamacues. Since I am learning without a private instructor, I am picking ones I like. I usually do single stroke, double stroke, paradiddles, and my ratamacues. I am starting to notice the patterns of them. I will eventually learn them all. This is a lot of fun for me. My bass is very jealous of the new roommate, but I promised her I would play with her.

    This tip might be cool for the other bassplayers here. I saw it from a Billy Sheehan DVD. He talked about 2 hand technique, and used "Mean Street" by Van Halen as an example. He plays parts of chords with both hands. Using drum rudiments, you can achieve a really cool pattern to play on the bass.
    Right about now, a bright light shines on me and a BIG voice says, "HMMM..." That's it just "HMMM...."

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    Quote Originally Posted by bassist learning drums View Post
    Right about now, a bright light shines on me and a BIG voice says, "HMMM..." That's it just "HMMM...."
    Yeah, I get that a lot too! Just HMMMM!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bassist learning drums View Post
    I like the sound of ratamacues. Since I am learning without a private instructor, I am picking ones I like. I usually do single stroke, double stroke, paradiddles, and my ratamacues. I am starting to notice the patterns of them. I will eventually learn them all. This is a lot of fun for me. My bass is very jealous of the new roommate, but I promised her I would play with her.

    This tip might be cool for the other bassplayers here. I saw it from a Billy Sheehan DVD. He talked about 2 hand technique, and used "Mean Street" by Van Halen as an example. He plays parts of chords with both hands. Using drum rudiments, you can achieve a really cool pattern to play on the bass.
    Right about now, a bright light shines on me and a BIG voice says, "HMMM..." That's it just "HMMM...."
    onename for ratmycues dude , steve gadd check him on you tube. if ya cant find it , i will post the lesson. its old but it still works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ratmycue View Post
    Your ability to play certain music will only be limited by your understanding and control of the rudiments. They are there for a reason peeps.
    There are no shortcuts im afraid, sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
    yes start with singles doubles and paradiddles of course but do not forget the others if you want to fully master this ancient spiritual art form !! hey swd you are influencing me dude.
    HOLA COMO ESTAS RATMYCUE*CREATIVE ARTISTIC ARTIST DRUMMER(CAT) THAT IS A VERY TRUE FACT*EXCELLENT* *& ALSO TOO MASTER THE SWISS -CHART RUDIMENTS***ALL the RUDIMENTS ARE VERY important
    THEY are the SCALES TOO THIS VERY ANCIENT SPIRITUAL ART FORM just Like THe PIANIST Must LEARN ALL the MAJOR & MINOR SCALES & AUGMENTED & DIMINISH SCALES ** THE RUDIMENTS ARE A GREAT STRUCTURED DISCIPLINE within MASTERING THE TAMBORES (DRUMS AS THEY also HELP the CREATIVE ARTISTIC DRUMMERS SINGING Within HIS or HERS ARTISTRY
    Within THIS VERY ANCIENT SPIRITUAL ANCIENT ART FORM**GRACIAS*THIER IS INFINITE CONVERSIONS Within THIS
    OF GAINING Knowledge Within THE MASTERING OF THE RUDIMENTS IT will Only ENHANCE THE CRETIVE ARTISTIC ARTIST DRUMMER IN GREAT WAYS **BEYOND & BEYOND***THATS A FACT**ENJOY your JOURNEY **
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    Here's a ghost I scared up!!! Just been enjoying learning the building blocks of drumming.

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    There are building blocks?
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