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    Could anyone give me pointers on how I can take the "barrel" sound out of a
    4" piccolo snare?
    I am searching for that nice crisp snare sound. I have tried muffeling the top head w/ duct tape, just a bit.
    Any advice would be most appreciated!
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    Hello Joseph nice to meet you....

    Wow...4" Snare ??
    I've never seen such a small snare like that.....

    Maybe another experienced drummer like PB,Frank,BB,STICKS and others can answer your question properly....
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    what do you mean barrel sound? could be that your wires are too tight.

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    Duct tape will achieve nothing.
    And yes, please elabourate on your barrel sound theory.
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    I don't know what heads you are using, but it sounds like you need to look into a two ply or pre muffled head, like the Aquarian studio X or similar head with a mylar ring around the outer edge. You could also look into the remo rings that sit on top of your snare head and muffle the otter edge slightly to take out the undesired ring. Any of those solutions should focus your snare sound and achieve what you are looking for.

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    Totti, thanks for the vote of confidence, but when it comes to experience I bow to many others around here. I am not worthy to hold their drumsticks for them!

    JL, first of all welcome back to Drum Chat!

    I am wondering if maybe you've got the resonant head too tight. That might account for a loss of snare sound too. Another thought I had was whether the "barrel" sound you mentioned might be another way of describing a "choked" drum. Drummers usually tighten down a head on a snare to get more "crack" out of the snare - that crisp sound. Could it be that you tightened it too tight? We're stabbing in the dark here, because we're trying to understand the "barrel" sound.
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    I took the barrel sound to mean like what it sounds like when you hit a basket ball with a stick ringy and open sounding and not a focused snare sound. You mentioned something PB that I hadn't thought of. It could very well be a choked drum sound, however piccolo snares are hard to really choke because they are all head sounds and very little shell sound due to they are so shallow. They seem to crack not matter what you do. Like PB said we need more information or we are just stabbing in the dark.

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    i really think that your snare reso is too tight, and the batter is tight as well. play around with the tension, and check your snare wire tension too.

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    Im interpreting barrel as in a deep hollow shell, in which case, youve got the wrong snare, 4 inches is meant for a crack noise

    But if you want a nice crisp sound, dont go cranking the drum like crazy, if your talking about a nice staccato (not even deep, like i interperet barrel, your not gonna get a deep sound from a 4 inch) but a staccato sound, make usre your heads are at a reasonable tension, not collapsable tension, and make sure your snares are really tight, dont let them dangle, make sure their tight, not tight enough to rip the head or break apart, but make sure the snares are tight on the drum

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    on how to make your snare more crisp is to have tighter heads, not crazy tight but tight, on a drum dial a 7 or 8 maybe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbolimbo99 View Post
    Duct tape will achieve nothing.
    How do you figure that Jimbo. I've been using duct tape for years to dampen drums with great success.
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    i think its more simple like the tuning
    take the batter head tighter
    piccolo snares are meant to be ringy with a really tight batter head
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